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Dear all I am just catching up so someone may have commented already but "College" in the form of John Heyworth, has had multiple press opportunities since this story broke and is working on a statement for our members of advice re the issues. it is an opportunity to point out the benefits of more EM consultants in the ED to provide supervision, support and safer systems. We also know from talking to one of the new consultants who are in post there now, that there have been major improvements already - a point that should also be brought out. Sadly targets appear to be here to stay - and JH is making the point that more realistic targets (95%) would reduce the need to push sick people through an inflexible system. Ruth -----Original Message----- From: Accident and Emergency Academic List [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of S M Mason Sent: 19 March 2009 13:40 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Stafford Hospital You obviously inhabit the nice part of the NHS (I didn't know there was one)! We are still being oushed about 98% daily and have recently been told by the PCT that they want to introduce 2 hours for all patients! Very worrying in my opinion. Sue Mason Quoting Steve Meek <[log in to unmask]>: > the important thing is, overzealous enforcement of target culture is now > dead...and target culture itself on the backfoot, probably long term. > In the southwest we were facing the imposition of a 2 hour target for > certain categories so hopefully now that will be buried - general election > has to be in the next 14 months doesn't it? > > --- On Wed, 3/18/09, Martyn Hodson <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > From: Martyn Hodson <[log in to unmask]> > Subject: Re: Stafford Hospital > To: [log in to unmask] > Date: Wednesday, March 18, 2009, 9:03 PM > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Accident and Emergency Academic List > > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Suzanne Mason > > Sent: 18 March 2009 09:50 > > To: [log in to unmask] > > Subject: Re: Stafford Hospital > > > > > > Maybe I missed something, but what I cannot understand is > > that this was a > > hospital-wide problem, but that the government and press seem to be > > focussing on ED! I know we are an easy target (ha ha), but > > wonder whether > > college should be saying something in our defense? I am > > thoroughly sick of > > being told we are to balme for many of the shortcomings that > > arise as a > > result of pushing patients out of the ED to a silo elsewhere > > within the > > hospital where god knows what happens to them! It is about > > time that the DH > > realised the ED is a SAFE place for many patients to receive > > their treatment > > and that we are the experts in managing the undifferentiated > > patient! Rant > > over... > > Sue Mason > > especially as the blame is on management but also on the absence of > properly run Assessment units and acute medicine services. > > The 4hour target is classic ZaNuliarbour spin ... I know that you know that > , we as in members of ACAD-ae-,ed and many other listsand sites know that > ... > > > > IMPERIAL COLLEGE HEALTHCARE NHS TRUST NOTICE: This message may contain confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the person or entity that it is addressed you should not review, disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secured or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message, which arise as a result of e- mail transmission. The views and opinions expressed in this e- mail message are the senders own and do not necessarily represent the views and opinions of Imperial College Healthcare NHS Trust.