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My conclusion is that the application of the many and sometimes contradictory creativity theories into practical and effective creativity management for business is an area that needs more study and development. Rob On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 4:53 AM, Claudia Mareis <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Hello, > > "Who would even think of social class and educational level as determining >> general intelligence." >> > > I guess, the french sociologist Pierre Bourdieu does. > (e.g.: Bourdieu, Pierre: Outline of a Theory of Practice. Cambridge/New > York. 1977) > > Also Michael Polanyi considered authority and tradition to be strong > influences on our tacit ways of knowing. > (Polanyi, Michael: Personal Knowledge. London. 1974, [1958], p. 53.) > Both would doubt, that there is a clearly defined "general intelligence" > that is performed only by genetic guidlines. > > Best wishes, > Claudia Mareis > > > Design Researcher, Berne University of the Arts, > Pre-doctoral Fellow, Max Planck Institut for the History of Science, Berlin > > > > (remember that race and sex are also genetic... I guess.) >> :) >> Cheers, >> Eduardo >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rob Curedale" <[log in to unmask]> >> To: <[log in to unmask]> >> Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 10:24 PM >> Subject: Re: Fw: Creativity and Nature vs Nuture >> >> >> Carma, >>> >>> I am theorizing that genetic inheritance contributes to what we call >>> creativity but there are other factors as you ponit out and that >>> creativity >>> is a form or subset of general intelligence. >>> >>> Would you conclude that social class, race, sex, educational level have >>> more >>> to do with general intelligence than genetic inheritance? >>> >>> Rob >>> >>> On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 2:13 PM, Carma R. Gorman <[log in to unmask]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> It's probably not quite what you have in mind, but your query brought to >>>> mind immediately a number of feminist art historical writings. The >>>> argument >>>> of much of this literature is that although people with Y chromosomes >>>> have >>>> been credited with genetic superiority (esp. in terms of creativity), >>>> much >>>> of their success probably has nothing to do with their chromosomes, but >>>> instead with patriarchy. Linda Nochlin's "Why Have There Been No Great >>>> Women >>>> Artists" is a good place to start. She acknowledges that creativity >>>> often >>>> seems to run in families, but her explanation of that phenomenon is >>>> quite >>>> different from the genetic model you're suggesting. >>>> >>>> Despite the many fascinating genetic explanations/revelations that have >>>> been in the news in the last five years, I still find explanatory models >>>> like the one in Malcolm Gladwell's book *Outliers* to be a lot more >>>> persuasive: I suspect that social class, race, sex, educational level, >>>> etc. >>>> (and the opportunities these characteristics offer or preclude) have a >>>> lot >>>> more to do with individual and familial creativity than genetic >>>> inheritance. >>>> >>>> Carma Gorman >>>> >>>> -------------------------------------------------- >>>> From: "Rob Curedale" <[log in to unmask]> >>>> Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 12:41 PM >>>> To: <[log in to unmask]> >>>> Subject: Creativity and Nature vs Nuture >>>> >>>> Can any group members refer me to studies in the area of DNA/genetic >>>> >>>>> inheritance and creativity? >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> Rob Curedale | President | Curedale Inc | 22148 Monte Vista Drive Topanga >>> Canyon CA 90290 USA | tel: +1 310.455.2636 studio | cell: +1 >>> 616.455.7025 | >>> www.curedale.com | [log in to unmask] | >>> >> >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> >> Nenhum vírus encontrado nessa mensagem recebida. >> Verificado por AVG - www.avgbrasil.com.br >> Versão: 8.0.237 / Banco de dados de vírus: 270.10.25/1956 - Data de >> Lançamento: 02/16/09 18:31:00 >> > -- Rob Curedale | President | Curedale Inc | 22148 Monte Vista Drive Topanga Canyon CA 90290 USA | tel: +1 310.455.2636 studio | cell: +1 616.455.7025 | www.curedale.com | [log in to unmask] |