Hello, again Thanks for your comments, Brooke. I wonder if we're talking about two different types of filmmaking (not to mention, cameras!) here...one with a budget, and one without. I work on the latter, and this may be where some of the miscommunication lies. As I said, I'm old-school. I use an old H-16 Bolex -- or a 16mm Beaulieu when I'm feeling "rich".... Either way, neither are crystal synch. I could slave the former to a Nagra (yes, I still use a Nagra!), though. Even when I use a 16mm Éclair or an Arri, I've never had the luxury of gadgets for doing the filmming for me! Again, I'm travelling in a different circle of filmmakers...one where process is the project, and one where process gets in the way. The one thing in common is that there's much of a budget. And, I should add that I've never known anyone to use a still camera for time-lapse images that are intended ultimately for motion picture. I've used the Nikon Super 8 for this, and don't mind setting up the camera with the intervalometer and leaving it to do the work. No, I don't walk away from it, but I might point it out my bedroom window and then go about my business for a day or so. Then I transfer the Super 8 footage onto 16mm, and don't find the increase in grain to be a big deal. Again, though, I'm not making the kind of films where that would matter. And, as far as sending my film to a lab to have them push it a few stops? Nope. I hand process my footage, and, even though I often push my film when processing, it doesn't matter how much I push if there was not enough light in the first place -- because I can't process what isn't there. Processing by hand can be risky, but is possibly something more and more filmmakers -- filmmakers of a certain type, that is -- may find themselves resorting to in the future, as less and less labs continue to process film. I mean, it's getting hard to find a lab that will strike a work print, let alone process black and white reversal! And hardly anyone cuts on a flatbed anymore...let alone their kitchen table.... Film school is a great place, I agree, but sadly this is a dying (not quite dead) institution, and it's truly heartbreaking to imagine budding filmmakers of today having no idea what the emulsion side of film tastes like.... Not that this could possibly make one a better "filmmaker," but the tactility of manually cutting a piece of celluloid with a splicer, rather than editing a digital image on a computer, does, I believe, make a difference. It just might be that I'm sentimental, but it might not. Maybe it's about a relationship between the material, the material image, and the filmmaker -- to the physicality of film -- that digital images and working on a computer just can't stand up to. I suspect I'm not quite hitting the nail on the head with my explanation, and would like to hear what others think about this. Is it just another version of the vinyl vs. CDs argument? And one more thing -- apropos of nothing -- it irks me when people refer to "videos" as "films." And I am stunned how the average person cannot seem to tell the difference between the two mediums.... I'm thinking about Godard on this one, his indictment of film as contained in "Histoires du Cinema." With the strength of HD, can cinema (now) find it's ("true") "place in the sun?" Oy, it's late where I am, and I'm getting maudlin. Thanks again for your comments, and for keeping this thread alive. I just hope I haven't killed it! TL * * Film-Philosophy salon After hitting 'reply' please always delete the text of the message you are replying to. To leave, send the message: leave film-philosophy to: [log in to unmask] Or visit: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/film-philosophy.html For help email: [log in to unmask], not the salon. * Film-Philosophy online: http://www.film-philosophy.com Contact: [log in to unmask] **