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There are lots of Hollywood films without a happy ending. Viz most of film noir, e.g. Or the kind of social realism implied by works such as The Grapes of Wrath, The Best Years of Our Lives, etc. I'm not going to the other extreme and claim a 1:1 correspondence with lived reality, but to say it has NOTHING to do with reality is far off the mark. Not less, when we consider the very reality of the imaginary, and of desire. There is much to be learned from classical Hollywood if we go beyond the depicted surface of things. Henry Am 13.02.2009 um 16:26 schrieb bill harris: > Oh, for sure. The nuance of which you speak is that for the > extremely privileged things always come to a happy ending. We know > this is true because Brecht told us so. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Henry M. Taylor > To: [log in to unmask] > Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 09:55 > Subject: Re: convention-cliche / propaganda-realism > > Anja writes: > > 'The fact that the "world" that classical hollywood films represent > has nothing to do with the "real world" we live in' > > > > > Excuse me, but this is way overstated! I think we should find a more > nuanced approach here ... > > Henry * * Film-Philosophy salon After hitting 'reply' please always delete the text of the message you are replying to. To leave, send the message: leave film-philosophy to: [log in to unmask] Or visit: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/film-philosophy.html For help email: [log in to unmask], not the salon. * Film-Philosophy online: http://www.film-philosophy.com Contact: [log in to unmask] **