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As Kevin Anderson noted recently, the bankers have done a good job of temporarily reducing our GHG emissions, although nowhere near enough. As the globe stands on the edge of a monumental fiscal push to 'rescue' economies and the projects of international trade, we seem to blithely be supporting a resumption of our old patterns. Sure, we now want to be able to jail bankers at will and install CCTV on the desks of executives, financiers and regulators, but where else is the debate going on? This is a KEY time for debate, the sums are enormous, possibly generational. The media unashamedly, despite its previous endorsement of boom-time Brown and Britain's policies, suggests that something is not right with our version of capitalism, but they see it as structural problems. No discussion of the ideological, institutional or moral aspects of what we have and where it is leading. A resumption with structural changes could even be worse, a juggernaut of consumptive steady growth, with all the associated ecological damage and resource scarcity issues. Whilst we are de-railed, we need to kick-off real debate over policy initiatives. We have internalised acceptance of our current system into education and public life. Dissent just is not there, neither are the faculties to create alternatives in a large enough fashion to make a dent. I don't wish to sound so negative or judgemental, but our society just seems to legitimize itself. How do we change and start debate at this juncture before we throw billions of pounds on the fire?