Look here David my old mucker Don't blame capitalism Any old excuse You don't write actually Because you are a Burnt out old wreck Of a Leicesterian has been Cheeres P your friend -----Original Message----- From: Poetryetc: poetry and poetics [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of David Bircumshaw Sent: 27 January 2009 23:57 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: No Subject Ah, Chris, 'to touch' and art. This afternoon I was going round an exhibition of Arts and Crafts stuff by Ernest Gimson and his collaborators: chairs, tables, a sofa even, all wood. And what you could not do was touch any of them. Or sit on them, which is the natural reaction to find out what a chair is like. Art is money, and you have to have the right bank account to finger and feel it. Modernism has taken alienation even further: we have virtual reality as a ground line, poetry is disappearing, into a nothingness of unvoice. Friends on Facebook, pseudo-art in pixels, blah blah blah. I'm afraid our dear friends in the USA have been more responsible for this disaster than anyone, but I understand the Chinese are taking Art as Mass Production Capitalism further than anyone. Avant-garde poetry started out as a critical response to the overwhelm of capitalism, unfortunately now it has been absorbed by the Beast. We need a new direction, all round, but bugger knows what it is. I've got to the point where I no longer want to write, and certainly not publish, because I don't want to get sucked into the monstrousness that fouls my life any more than I already am. Best Dave 2009/1/27 Christopher C Jones <[log in to unmask]>: > Haptic, from the Greek verb, to touch, was introduced to art history and > criticism by Alois Riegl in the later 19th century. More recently it has > found its way into the writings of great philosophers in the work of > Gilles Deleuze. Also, experimental psychology has taken it up as a > possible way we learn to use our eyes. The distinction is between haptic > perception and sensation and optic vision in art theory and Egyptian art > is considered haptic art as distinct from optical art which is said to > start with later Roman art. It is also an essential part of modernist > visual arts including art photography (eg Robert Frank and Lee > Friedlander) so it is not at all correct to say art photography is > concerned only with optical art. It also refers to the positions of the > flesh and blood body in art sensation and as such is connected to > modernist and recent poetry. Even typing on a computer keyboard is > haptic and is now being taken up in the computer science field. > > Anyways, one of my fave areas, so will stop here. best, Chris Jones. > PS speaking of haptics, the keyboard on my new laptop is much easier to > use then the ancient desktop tower I no longer use. The shift keys, esp. > > On Mon, 2009-01-26 at 15:49 -0700, Sheila Murphy wrote: >> I think haptic is a beauty of a word, and sounds less clinical, >> Stephen. > -- David Bircumshaw Website and A Chide's Alphabet http://homepage.ntlworld.com/david.bircumshaw/ The Animal Subsides http://www.arrowheadpress.co.uk/books/animal.html Leicester Poetry Society: http://www.poetryleicester.co.uk No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.14/1920 - Release Date: 27/01/2009 18:15