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I have other work as a first aid assessor and the trainer I work for does
not teach the administration of aspirin.  My team of first aiders at my OH
workplace are not permitted to give aspirin either.  The list of signs and
symptoms below as written by Robert is what our first aiders are taught,
together with a "sense of impending doom".  First aiders are taught to call
an ambulance, place the casualty in the W position, loosen tight clothing,
ask if they have any medication (e.g. GTN) which they can assist the patient
to take, and reassure and monitor until ambulance arrives.
 
Lynda
 

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Subject: Re: [OCC-HEALTH] Aspirin used in first aid


The first aiders would also have to be covered to give such medication by
the equivalent of a "patient group directive". Some, but not all
organisations  authorise their first aiders to do this. 

Anne


On 13/1/09 14:30, "Robert Dunn" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:



I forgot to say that the first aider's are taught the following in terms of
recognition and diagnosis.
 
Recognition
* *Persistent central chest pain - often described as a heavy pressure
crushing or vice like pain. 
* *The pain often spreads (radiates) to the jaw, neck and down one or both
arms 
* *Breathlessness. 
* *Discomfort high in the abdomen similar to indigestion. 
* *There could be collapse without warning. 
* *Ashen skin and blueness at the lips. 
* *Rapid, weak pulse which may be irregular. 
* *Profuse sweating, skin cold to the touch. 
* *Gasping for air (air hunger). 
* *Nausea and/or vomiting. 
Regards, Bob
Robert Dunn TD
RGN OHNC SCPHN(OH) MSc
Senior Occupational Health Adviser
University of Oxford Occupational Health Service
 

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Sent: 13 January 2009 14:08
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Subject: [OCC-HEALTH] Aspirin used in first aid

 
    Hi all, 
    
  I work as an Occupational Health Advisor in a Large Local Authority and
would really appreciate some advice/ guidance on an issue that has arisen.. 
    
  An individual who works as a Solicitor within the Authority has recently
been on  a Designated First Aider course, and he says he was advised to give
Aspirin as first aid for a suspected MI. Is this something that anyone has
come accross?? I have concerns, eg how would a non medically trained
individual correctly diagnose a heart attack? This individual is now
requetsin 
    
  Thank you in advance for any advice i receive, 
    
  Shirley Jones 
 
  

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