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Great to see that Yahoo is extracting RFDa, however it's been a decade since Yahoo was the search engine of choice for the majority. We need Big G to follow suit before it will take off. Regards David David Bromage Policy and Strategic Projects Government Information Management Branch National Archives of Australia PO Box 7425 Canberra Business Centre ACT 2610 T (02) 6212 3731 F (02) 6212 3989 M 0418 394 778 [log in to unmask] www.naa.gov.au <http://www.naa.gov.au/> ________________________________ From: General DCMI discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Jon Phipps Sent: Monday, 5 January 2009 11:47 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: DC metadata in docs as part of HTML One of the most compelling consumers of RDFa, and as good a reason as any to deploy it, is Yahoo Search... http://developer.yahoo.net/blog/archives/2008/09/searchmonkey_su.html It's on track to be deployed in Drupal 7... http://groups.drupal.org/node/16597 There's a growing selection of tools for both deployment and consumption too... http://rdfa.info/wiki/Tools --Jon On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 10:50 AM, Karen Coyle <[log in to unmask]> wrote: On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 2:22 PM, Mikael Nilsson <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Liddy, > > I agree about the usefulness of RDFa! It's a new spec, so we're still > waiting for publishing tools etc to implement it. It seems that beyond creation tools there need to be tools that make use of RDFa when it is coded in a page. With a thought to human nature, people will want a 'bang for the buck' -- are there any plans for web apps that will use these? Even a small demonstration set could be convincing, like adding some RDFa coded documents to one of the semantic web demos. I think what really killed off the meta tags was that there weren't web applications that used them -- so people didn't see any gain from the effort to code them. kc > > I've seen a lot of discussion on W3C lists on HTML5 and RDFa, and I > think there are many working on making that combination work. > > There's also been lots of discussion about WAI-ARIA, > http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/aria/ , which you probably want to look at even > though I'm certainly no expert in the area. > > /Mikael > > > sön 2009-01-04 klockan 09:06 +1100 skrev Liddy Nevile: >> First - Happy and Safe New Year to everyone. >> >> I am wondering how many people have been using RDF/A to put their >> metadata into the docs so that instead of just identifying something >> as a heading, for example, it can be identified as the title (or >> dc:title) and another bit of text as the author's name (dc:creator) >> and affiliation and a particular link as a reference to the source >> documents, etc? >> >> This is so much smarter than trying to bung stuff into a meta tag, it >> seems to me - see http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml-rdfa-primer/ >> >> Problem, as I see it, is that this is a technique for those using >> XHTML and most people are using HTML, and it is not part of valid >> HTML. I am wondering if there is interest in this problem - if people >> want to use RDF/A, surely it should be included in the new versions of >> HTML? (HTML 5 is being developed right now.) >> >> I would like it a lot because it would also make it much easier for >> people to do really significant and helpful things about >> accessibility, tagging content for what it offers and helping people >> find alternatives to content components that they cannot use... >> >> Liddy >> > -- > <[log in to unmask]> > > Varning! E-post till och från Sverige, eller som passerar servrar i > Sverige, avlyssnas av Försvarets Radioanstalt, FRA. > WARNING! E-mail to and from Sweden, or via servers in Sweden, is > monitored by the National Defence Radio Establishment. > -- -- --- Karen Coyle / Digital Library Consultant [log in to unmask] http://www.kcoyle.net ph.: 510-540-7596 skype: kcoylenet mo.: 510-435-8234 ------------------------------------