From: G.C. Carr <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Monday, 19 January, 2009 17:57:08
Subject: Re: Defiance
Anyone out there got a multilingual potential PhD student to throw this at, or a post-doc group looking for a topic? I'm sure it would get funding! Best, Gilly
On Jan 19 2009, DE Ops South-LMS7c1c (Brown Martin Mr) wrote:
> There has, of course been an amount of work in Britain on our own
> Partisan bases - the Auxiliary Unit bases.
> Also in this vein I have just read an article in "Britain at War"
> magazine (21, January 2009) on camps run in woodland by the French
> Resistance to shelter escapees from German POW camps. The article
> includes a number of photographs
of the camp, which was described by one
> British airman as reminiscent of "the teddy bears' picnic and the Boy
> Scouts." According to the article 150 men lived in a wood for three
> months. Admittedly the infrastructure created may not have been as
> enduring as in the Polish forests but some artefact scatters and the
> inevitable latrine pits would be useful indicators of the presence, use
> and layout of the camp.
>
> I'm not in favour of the ever-developing fragmentation of Conflict
> Archaeology but I do wonder what we might call this - not quite either
> partisan or internment... Resistance perhaps?
>
> Cheers
>
> Martin
>
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> Thanks David. I think that this would make a fascinating research
> project for someone. If only one had the time (and the language
> proficiency!) Just
> imagine: 'Partisan Archaeology' - it could be the next big thing! Just
> remember folks, you saw it here first!
>
> All best,
> Gilly Carr
>
> On Jan 17 2009, PETTS D.A. wrote:
>
>> I was bizarrely enough wondering exactly the same thing. I don't know what state Belorussian archaeology is in- its probably the last old-style authoritarian regimes left in Eastern Europe; its president Alexander
Lukashenko is a nasty piece of work.
>>
>> It is possible that similar sites may remain in Poland (maybe Paul Barford would know). I know in Estonia, there was small-scale partisan/resistance activity againt the Soviets into the 1950s carried
>
>> out groups known as metsavendlus (Forest Brothers). I saw a reconstruction of one of their bunkers in the local museum in Voru in south Estonia a couple of years ago; thought I don't know how much organised archaeological work has been done. A former forest brother also maintained some bunkers in the same area for school visits. A good book on this is Maart Laar's War in the woods : Estonia's struggle for survival, 1944-1956.
>>
>> Certainly in the Baltic states, the main historic focus is on remembering the trauma of Soviet occupation rather than the Nazi occupation (witness the major disputes last year in Estonia following the removal of the war memorial
to Soviet fighters in the centre of Tallinn ). A conference on the Archaeology of Terror in Tallinn in 2005 focused primarily on Soviet rather than Nazi atrocities.
>>
>> Incidentally, in Slovenia one of the hospitals established by the Yugoslav partisans is now on the UNSECO tentative list for inscription
>
>> as a World Heritage Site.
>>
>> David
>>
>>
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>> From: Discussion List for Contemporary and Historical Archaeology on behalf of G.C. Carr Sent: Fri 16/01/2009 23:11 To:
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>>
>> Dear CHAT group members,
>>
>> A quick query. I've just got back from seeing 'Defiance' at the
cinema,
>
>> and for all those who've seen it too, I have some questions. Look away all those who have yet to see the film as the questions involve some
> spoilers.
>>
>> The film ended by saying that the partisan group survived 2 more years in the Byelorussian forest and even built a school, a nursery and a hospital out there. Have any archaeologists been to examine this site or its remains? Has anyone looked at the material culture / trench art of their existence in the forest? It would be a really fascinating study. Anyone know anything about it?
>>
>> Best wishes,
>> Gilly Carr
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