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That was what I gathered....I was wondering if there was any greater significance than I was aware ...my gut was right then. I appreciate your help. I was just trying to answer the question...At least I provided every one with a good laugh.... :-) D. Scott MacKenzie, PhD Technical Specialist - Heat Treating Products Houghton International, Inc. Madison and Van Buren Aves. 484-467-0285 (cell) 610-666-4007 (office) ________________________________ From: Arch-Metals Group [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of John Scott Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 4:12 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: LDS scripture and "bathing" a sword Helloooo, are you and your correspondent serious? Or, it's not yet April 1.... Scriptures on golden tablets were reportedly deposited in NE USA at unknown date by angels, then reportedly dug up by Joseph Smith mid-19c CE. Smith reportedly transcribed the scriptures before reportedly losing the tablets, which have to all knowledge never been recovered. The reported transcripts were indeed adopted as LDS scripture and carried west to Missouri and Utah. Your most charitable advice to your clients should be that after he identifies Smith's prior sources of religio-history he should get back to you with any phrases worthy of historical - technical study regarding actual production processes. On the other hand as a literary image I'd go for simple and direct: the sword must be raised on high -- bathed in heaven -- before falling upon etc. ~ John John Scott In a message dated 1/5/2009 2:16:42 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: All: I recently received an email from someone who had read a paper I had written on "The History of Quenching". He was reading a passage in Church of the Latter Day Saints, Doctrine and Covenants Section 1, verse 13, http://scriptures.lds.org/en/dc/1 <http://scriptures.lds.org/en/dc/1> : "And the anger <http://scriptures.lds.org/en/dc/dc/1/13a> of the Lord is kindled, and his sword <http://scriptures.lds.org/en/dc/dc/1/13b> is bathed in heaven, and it shall fall upon the inhabitants of the earth." I would gather that this passage would be interpreted as immediately prior to the end of days when the righteous and wicked are separated. Is "bathing" a sword prior to battle holding it high to be bless; or is it coating the sword with some material like garlic to impart "special properties"; or is it something entirely different? Could it be implying the quenching process and hardening the blade? Is there any historical rituals used by either craftsmen or warriors prior to going in to battle? I appreciate the help. Scott D. Scott MacKenzie, PhD Technical Specialist - Heat Treating Products Houghton International, Inc. Madison and Van Buren Aves. 484-467-0285 (cell) 610-666-4007 (office) ________________________________ New year...new news. Be the first to know what is making headlines <http://www.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntaolcom00000026> .