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Yes I have heard that old Welsh counting (it is actually the numbers I think) but I dont know how they are written. Sally http://www.desktopsallye.com http://groups.msn.com/desktopsallye http://www.poetryscotland.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick McManus" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 4:25 PM Subject: Re: Some child lore poems Susan it was a from counting system (from welsh? For counting sheep!-adapted to 'Scissors'---I do have half memories songs about girls knickers very daring! Risqué! Make sure mum not around Patrick Ps quiet here today -theyareout partying -----Original Message----- From: Poetryetc: poetry and poetics [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Susan Holahan Sent: 22 December 2008 12:58 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Some child lore poems On Dec 22, 2008, at 2:52 AM, Patrick McManus wrote: > Gosh I have been trying to remember-. . . 'ick ack ock'? Would that be first-year Latin? hic haec hoc huius huius huius huic huic huic We did get to singing it. . . . Speaking of singing, did kids in the North of England a couple of generations ago really sing "Oh, you can't put your trash in our dustbin" (to the tune of --- can't remember the title) or was Ewan MacColl just joking when he said so? Susan Holahan No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.19/1860 - Release Date: 21/12/2008 15:08