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I've always referred to them as "flats" simple as that. I very much doubt that there would be a wagon specifically used for moving a kibble - flats are so useful that they are used for a multiplicity of jobs. In the last few days I have used the same flat to shift building materials, timber, drums of water, plant and tools and also for man riding- flats are versatile bits of kit. Rick Stewart ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roger Baden Bradford" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 5:56 AM Subject: Kibble Trolley Friends Can you please help me- Do you know what the name of the Flat-Bed Trolley is, that the Cornish Miners used to wheel the kibble from the shaft to the tip- it shows in photo's of the Burra Burra Copper Mine in the 1870's!!!! In the Burra photo's the small flat-bed truck is shown parked on the rough raised tramway. I am referring to the shaft,and whim , before any automatic system was fitted to empty the kibble. Hope some one knows. Take Care. Roger B Bradford, Of Elizabeth, South Australia -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.549 / Virus Database: 270.9.10/1812 - Release Date: 25/11/2008 19:53