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At Reading it is university policy that any student can record a lecture for their own use. In practice some of the lecturers manage to prevent this from happening but we only hear of difficulties a few times a year and mostly it works well. Judy Dr Judy Turner, Study Adviser & LearnHigher Project Leader University Study Adviser, Carrington Building, Whiteknights, University of Reading, RG6 6UA| * 0118 378 4242| * www.rdg.ac.uk/studyadvice * www.learnhigher.ac.uk ________________________________ From: learning development in higher education network [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Alison Green Sent: 03 December 2008 09:06 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Learning in Lectures: the movie This is helpful thanks but my interpretation is that here we are talking about ALN students. Does anyone know what the position is for non-ALN students; or is it the case that lecturers are not allowed to ask why a student wants to record a lecture in case they are ALN? Alison Green Study Support Tutor Fellow of Learning & Teaching Room D172 Bournemouth University Ext: 65286 -----Original Message----- From: learning development in higher education network [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Pauline Ridley Sent: 02 December 2008 16:54 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Learning in Lectures: the movie Yes, this is considered a 'reasonable adjustment' under DDA/SENDA for any student who may have difficulty listening and making notes in classes (whether due to deafness, dyslexia, mobility difficulties etc). In 2003, Skill, the former Disability Rights Commission (DRC) and the lecturers' union, NATFHE (now UCU) worked together to produce guidance on this - designed to protect the student's right to confidentiality about the reasons for recording as well as the lecturer's IP rights . This is available at http://www.skill.org.uk/page.aspx?c=181&p=292 <http://www.skill.org.uk/page.aspx?c=181&p=292> Most universities should include something like this in student handbooks to clarify the position for everyone - and in most circumstances it would be considered unreasonable (and therefore a breach of DDA/ SENDA) to refuse. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------------- Pauline Ridley, Learning Area Co-ordinator (Visual Practices) Learnhigher CETL, Centre for Learning and Teaching Room 113, Mayfield House, Falmer Campus, University of Brighton Brighton BN1 9PH Telephone 01273-643406 Email [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> Visit the CLT website at http://staffcentral.brighton.ac.uk/clt <http://staffcentral.brighton.ac.uk/clt> Visual Practices website http://staffcentral.brighton.ac.uk/learnhigher <http://staffcentral.brighton.ac.uk/learnhigher> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------------- From: learning development in higher education network [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Eloise Sentito Sent: 02 December 2008 13:28 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Learning in Lectures: the movie My thruppence worth: I'm not sure if this is University of Plymouth policy rather than national policy - or legislation - but I have been advised in the (not-too-distant) past that although students should ask permission for recording lectures, lecturers are not legally allowed to refuse (perhaps under DDA / SENDA). From: learning development in higher education network [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Alison Green Sent: 02 December 2008 11:43 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Learning in Lectures: the movie What is the general policy with dictaphones? I noticed the lecturer in the film said she had no problem whilst John highlights the practical issues but..................I thought there was an issue of intellectual property rights and that students should always ask a lecturer beforehand whether they can record a lecture? I thought the film was great but a little 'messy' at the end with all those folk milling around. Are the walls really that pink at NTU? Alison Green Study Support Tutor Fellow of Learning & Teaching Room D172 Bournemouth University Ext: 65286 -----Original Message----- From: learning development in higher education network [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of John Hilsdon Sent: 01 December 2008 20:15 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Learning in Lectures: the movie Hi Ed I like the content on the film and feel the level is about right for students in last year of school, on foundation courses or HE in FE situations, or on HE inductions. I like the narrator voice - pacey and cheerful - not patronising. The interviews are mostly very good too I would prefer the end section to include text - e.g. bullet points to reinforce your summary - in addition to/instead of part of the film of students milling about To expand the resource, obviously it could usefully link to notemaking and other resources on the LearnHigher site. I also think it worth including a bit more content on a couple of key issues: On ways of recording information - maybe a comment from a student who has tried using their phone or dictaphone and or laptop in a lecture, what it was like and how useful / how tricky to write up the notes later, pros & cons ... On handling being active in lectures - on being assertive in asking when something is unclear; on making good use of time when lecturers ask you to 'talk to your neighbour' All the best John From: learning development in higher education network [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Foster, Ed Sent: 01 December 2008 13:30 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: FW: Learning in Lectures: the movie Apologies for double posting Dear all One of the themes that we're increasingly spending time thinking about at NTU is transition into HE and the differences between learning before students arrive and once they're here. Probably one of the biggest culture shocks/habitas shocks comes when students encounter their first large lecture. We wanted to develop a resource to help students before they arrive understand what they might expect in a lecture and also something that could be used in an induction session. To that end, we've done a 10 minute film interviewing several students and their lecturer. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tiv9GG_SzlI <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tiv9GG_SzlI> The finished product will come with lecture slides and discussion activities so that it can be used in FE or as an induction activity We're also using this as an experiment, if this is felt to work, we'd like to repeat the exercise with seminars and possibly different forms of writing. It's still a bit rough: it needs titles, probably intro music and we haven't levelled out the sound, so some interviews are louder than others, but before we go any further, I'd be grateful for some feedback. * Given it's target audience, is the content appropriate? * In the voice-over sections, is it interesting to see the students milling around, or would you prefer it to have the colour de-saturated/ in slow motion so as to slightly distance you from the visuals at that point? * Is there anything missing? * Have we missed the point? Finally, I've saved a relatively low resolution version suitable for phones/ mp3 players, if you play it full screen, it will look rough. But then it might be the perfect excuse to buy an iphone/ blackberry. "yes darling it's really important to see this work film at the correct resolution" All feedback will be gratefully received Cheers Ed ___________________________________ Ed Foster Centre for Academic Standards & Quality Nottingham Trent University, Nottingham, NG1 4BU (t) 0115 848 8203 Welcome Week 2008 Friday 3rd - Sunday 12th October DISCLAIMER: This email is intended solely for the addressee. It may contain private and confidential information. If you are not the intended addressee, please take no action based on it nor show a copy to anyone. In this case, please reply to this email to highlight the error. Opinions and information in this email that do not relate to the official business of Nottingham Trent University shall be understood as neither given nor endorsed by the University. 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