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Hi all, I've just done a first RDF expression of cataloger scenarios 7-10: http://dublincore.org/dcmirdataskgroup/Scenarios/7 http://dublincore.org/dcmirdataskgroup/Scenarios/8 http://dublincore.org/dcmirdataskgroup/Scenarios/9 http://dublincore.org/dcmirdataskgroup/Scenarios/10 I couldn't find an appropriate property for the "size" of a manifestation in scenario 7. Otherwise, these four scenarios can be expressed in RDF using the current versions of the RDA elements and roles schemas. I.e. I found no other major problems. For "pagination" (scenarios 7, 8) I guessed rda:extentOfText. Not directly related to any scenarios, I found that rda:placeOfCapture is a sub-property of rda:placeAndDateOfCapture, which doesn't look right. This looks like a case where Tom Delsey's "sub-elements" pattern got wrongly translated to RDF sub-properties, where rather it should be modelled in RDF as an n-ary relation. I also reviewed the RDF expressions of scenarios 1-6 using the latest RDA elements and role schemas. With a minor tweak to scenario 6, all of scenarios 1-6 now pass the vocabulary test, i.e. all scenarios show RDA schemas are sufficient. The minor tweak to scenario 6 was to push reporter and defendant out of the rdarole namespace, which seemed like a reasonable thing to do given comments on those roles not likely to be in scope for the rda roles schema. I just noticed I have a minor character encoding issue in the wiki pages, I'll try and fix that asap. Cheers, Alistair. -- Alistair Miles Senior Computing Officer Image Bioinformatics Research Group Department of Zoology The Tinbergen Building University of Oxford South Parks Road Oxford OX1 3PS United Kingdom Web: http://purl.org/net/aliman Email: [log in to unmask] Tel: +44 (0)1865 281993