Trevor Why not just do a 24 hr urine steroid profile? Shouldn't that answer all the questions? Happy new year! Cathryn Corns Consultant Biochemist & Head of Biochemistry 01702 435555 ext 6614 ________________________________ From: Clinical biochemistry discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of TICKNER TREVOR (RM1) Norfolk and Norwich University Hospital Sent: 29 December 2008 16:30 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Help/comments please I have received the following request for help from an endocrinologist. I do not know of anyone offering DHEA rather than DHEAS assay. Can anyone help or can anyone offer an alternative approach? Thanks, Trevor Tickner, Norwich I am due to see a lady this week called XXXXXXXXXXXX, dob 1/7/49, hospital number XXXXXXX. She has MS, but is unusual because she was referred to us with odd symptoms, which were diagnosed as reactive hypoglycaemia on the basis of a prolonged OGTT. However, she continued to feel quite unwell and she was unhappy with the diagnosis. She came to see me and on talking to her she had a few other symptoms that led me to believe that she may have adrenal disease (in particular recent loss of pubic and axially hair, de-pigmentation of her nipples). Her 9 am cortisol was normal, but she has no DHEAS. I don't think I have ever seen this (and much of my entire research has been on this elusive hormone!). I want to get her to have a short synacthen test, but would like to test her CYP17(b) pathway by measuring her androgens. That would test her 17beta HSD / 17 ketosteroid reductase and CYP 19 pathways. If possible is it possible to test the activity of her DHEA levels and compare them to her DHEAS levels to assess her 3 beta hydroxysteroid sulphotransferase / sulphohydrolayse activity? This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the originator of the message. This footer also confirms that this email message has been scanned for the presence of computer viruses but this should not be relied upon as a guarantee that the contents are virus free. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifies and with authority, states them to be the views of the Norfolk and Norwich University Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust. The information contained in this e-mail may be subject to public disclosure under the Freedom of Information Act 2000. Unless the information is legally exempt from disclosure, the confidentiality of this e-mail and your reply cannot be guaranteed ------ACB discussion List Information-------- This is an open discussion list for the academic and clinical community working in clinical biochemistry. Please note, archived messages are public and can be viewed via the internet. Views expressed are those of the individual and they are responsible for all message content. ACB Web Site http://www.acb.org.uk List Archives http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/ACB-CLIN-CHEM-GEN.html List Instructions (How to leave etc.) http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/ ================================================================ This email has been processed by the Southend Hospital mail gateway. Any executable files or known viruses have been removed - We do not accept or send emails larger than 20MB. Confidential information in this email must be handled in accordance with the Data Protection Act 1998. Details of all emails are archived for seven days. If this message has been sent to you in error please discard the email, notify the sender and do not open any attachments or act on the contents. For more information contact the IT Department, Southend University Hospital NHS Foundation Trust on +44 1702 385 678 ------ACB discussion List Information-------- This is an open discussion list for the academic and clinical community working in clinical biochemistry. Please note, archived messages are public and can be viewed via the internet. Views expressed are those of the individual and they are responsible for all message content. ACB Web Site http://www.acb.org.uk List Archives http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/ACB-CLIN-CHEM-GEN.html List Instructions (How to leave etc.) http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/