Origin instruments also do a SIP/PUFF headset which plugs straight into the Headmouse, giving you left and right clicking. http://www.orin.com/access/sip_puff/index.htm <http://www.orin.com/access/sip_puff/index.htm> Also, spoken commands can be used using V.A.C. http://www.dwvac.com/ <http://www.dwvac.com/> I have no experience of using this myself but it looks like being the right sort of thing. You could also look at making custom hand supports with embedded switching, to reduce hand, arm and finger fatigue. Best of luck Geoff G.J.Harbach I.Eng MIED IIPEM Clinical Technologist Department of Health Care Science West Midlands Rehabilitation Centre 91 Oak Tree Lane, Selly Oak Birmingham, B29 6JA Tel 0121 204 1641 -----Original Message----- From: A discussion list for Assistive Technology professionals. [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Sarah Greenland Sent: 18 December 2008 09:51 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Advice required on using Dragon with CAD software Hi Jenny I would look at 'head mouse' and 'eye gaze' systems as well. It really depends on your student's medical condition - is the disability likely to travel to other muscles with overuse and do they have fine motor control with anything other than their hands? You may find a combination of access systems works well - to minimize hand use, but not get rid of it altogether. Best wishes Sarah Greenland www.sarahgreenland.com <http://www.sarahgreenland.com> ----- Original Message ----- From: Sheldon Gold <mailto:[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 9:34 AM Subject: Re: Advice required on using Dragon with CAD software Hi Jenny As a relative newcomer to AT training, but with a lot of experience in general IT training and CAD related software (both as a professional and trainer) I would have to say you are fighting a losing battle here. Dragon (as we all know) is very much a dictation tool, and whilst it can perform general PC commands and be programmed with macros the simple fact of the matter is that CAD software simply cannot be used efficiently by any means other than keyboard and mouse/stylus - the commands and operations are simply too extensive and complex to be driven by vocal commands. As an aside even given the Disability Discrimination Act requirements that business' make allowances for any disabilities its employees may have, I can tell you from personal experience that working in any Industry with CAD requires long hours at the PC, and if your student cannot spend more than a few minutes at a PC the chances of them being employed in a CAD operator.designer role are going to be next to impossible. Sorry I couldn't give you anything more positive - maybe someone else out there can offer some more upbeat advice? Kind Regards Jason Spiller AT Trainer From: Sheldon Gold Sent: 14 December 2008 10:44 To: Trainers Subject: FW: Advice required on using Dragon with CAD software Importance: High ------------------------------------------- From: Association of Study Aids and Strategies Assessors discussion list on behalf of Jenny Brooks[SMTP:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 10:44:04 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Advice required on using Dragon with CAD software Importance: High Auto forwarded by a Rule Hello all Please can anyone help with this? This student's upper limb mobility condition has worsened with using the keyboard a lot during his first year of study (he is now in Yr 2), and he is only able to use his hands for VERY limited periods of time to operate a computer. He is studying for a BSc Production Design. He needs to use CAD software a great deal within this course. He has already recently got his own Dragon Naturally Speaking Professional v10. He urgently needs to use the voice dictation software in conjunction with CAD. Has anyone come across this before and, if so, is there any specific advice or assistance which can be offered. Alternatively, is there any other solution? This is a new one on me. He is struggling a lot at the moment. Any information would be much appreciated. Many thanks Jenny Brooks DSA Needs Assessor _____ Win John Lewis vouchers with BigSnapSearch.com Search <http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/117442309/direct/01/> now __________ NOD32 3688 (20081212) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com <http://www.eset.com> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3691 (20081214) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com <http://www.eset.com>