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Anglo-Saxon literature was of interest to white supremacists like Pound or Tolkien, which doesn't mean that people who follow on in that are of the same ilk, the trouble is that of taking on a poisoned chalice. 2008/11/23 David Bircumshaw <[log in to unmask]>: > Sally, my dear, neither am I university educated. > > I can be a gentleman on occasions though! > > 2008/11/23 Sally Evans <[log in to unmask]>: >> well you know they werent university educated gentlemen in our sense >> whatever >> Sally Evans >> http://www.poetryscotland.co.uk >> http://groups.msn.com/desktopsallye >> http://www.myspace.com/poetsallyevans >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Bircumshaw" >> <[log in to unmask]> >> To: <[log in to unmask]> >> Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 6:45 PM >> Subject: Re: A fitt >> >> >>> One of the interesting things about Beowulf is that nobody seems to >>> have known about it to the early seventeenth century: the manuscript >>> seems to date from at least the 11th century but all that proves is >>> that the material it was written on dates from then. The Gawayne poem >>> , by contrast, does seem to have been in a vague awareness. The >>> earliest conjectured date for the ms's existence is its supposed >>> existence in 1563, Beowulf seems to have come into the world following >>> Spenser's cod antiquarianism, along the desire to provide antiquity >>> for the new English then British state. >>> >>> We know Shakespeare's history plays are in a certain sense Tudor >>> propaganda, but, I at least, pace Auden on Claudel, can pardon him for >>> writing well, but Beowulf, it's abou as good as Colin Clot's Come Home >>> Again. >>> >>> Best >>> >>> Dave >>> >>> 2008/11/23 Robin Hamilton <[log in to unmask]>: >>>> >>>> << >>>> keep meaning to get a version that has the original alongside the >>>> transcription/interpretation. >>>>>> >>>> >>>> Tina, >>>> >>>> You might want to consider: >>>> >>>> Beowulf: A Glossed Text >>>> By Michael Alexander >>>> Published by Penguin Classics, 1995 >>>> ISBN 0140433775, 9780140433777 >>>> 237 pages >>>> >>>> It's not quite a parallel text, but one *heavily glossed on the right >>>> hand >>>> facing page. >>>> >>>> You can get an idea of what it's like from google books, which allows you >>>> to >>>> read as far as about line 20. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=KFlpxcQftwoC&printsec=frontcover&source=gbs_summary_r&cad=0 >>>> >>>> There are, I think, several versions of the original text on the Web as >>>> well >>>> as various out-of-copyright translations. >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> >>>> Robin >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> David Bircumshaw >>> Website and A Chide's Alphabet >>> http://homepage.ntlworld.com/david.bircumshaw/ >>> The Animal Subsides http://www.arrowheadpress.co.uk/books/animal.html >>> Leicester Poetry Society: http://www.poetryleicester.co.uk >> > > > > -- > David Bircumshaw > Website and A Chide's Alphabet http://homepage.ntlworld.com/david.bircumshaw/ > The Animal Subsides http://www.arrowheadpress.co.uk/books/animal.html > Leicester Poetry Society: http://www.poetryleicester.co.uk > -- David Bircumshaw Website and A Chide's Alphabet http://homepage.ntlworld.com/david.bircumshaw/ The Animal Subsides http://www.arrowheadpress.co.uk/books/animal.html Leicester Poetry Society: http://www.poetryleicester.co.uk