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Thanks P-not quite my cup of tea perhaps -----Original Message----- From: Poetryetc: poetry and poetics [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Bradley Omanson Sent: 14 November 2008 14:10 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: odd nerdrum Odd Nerdrum http://www.oddnerdrum.com/ ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: Patrick McManus <[log in to unmask]> Reply-To: "Poetryetc: poetry and poetics" <[log in to unmask]> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 08:04:49 -0000 Mark thanks for this what a beautiful drawing Cheers Patrick Ps is there a similar ref for Nedrum? I do not know him -----Original Message----- From: Poetryetc: poetry and poetics [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Mark Weiss Sent: 13 November 2008 17:53 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: strictures I wasn't aware that modernism welded anything shut, though certain modernists placed constraints on themselves, and some wrote manifestos. Nerdrum is certainly successful, but I think there's not much there there. Two painters who use the conventions and techniques of classical European realist painting more tellingly are the late Gregory Gillespie (check Google Images) and the young Mexican artist Hugo Crosthwaite (http://www.hugocrosthwaite.com/, and an amazing minidoc on YouTube, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0guLRCtNTs). Mark