Mostly within the White House. Hal "Artists are the engineers of the soul." --Iosif Dzhugashvili Halvard Johnson ================ [log in to unmask] http://home.earthlink.net/~halvard/index.html http://entropyandme.blogspot.com http://imageswithoutwords.blogspot.com http://www.hamiltonstone.org http://home.earthlink.net/~halvard/vidalocabooks.html On Nov 5, 2008, at 1:11 PM, Roger Day wrote: > 24 hours really did make torture acceptable. > > Roger