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medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture We have actually been debating this in the context of the Llandeilo Talybont reconstruction project - the extent to which 'ordinary' parish churches would have had the resources for singing the office, including not only choirs but the increased popularity of liturgical organ music by the early C16. (This might also tie in with the discussion on lay use of Latin.) The Misericords pool on Flicka (http://flickr.com/groups/88881195@N00/pool/) has a number of examples from churches I'd class as ordinary/rural parish churches: St Mary's, Ripple, Worcs; Enville, Staffs; Trunch, Norfolk; etc. The Welsh ones I agree are mostly larger/urban churches (but remember that a Welsh 'borough' like Montgomery, which has some real beauties, was probably smaller than a lowland English village). Maddy Dr Madeleine Gray Senior Lecturer in History School of Education/Ysgol Addysg University of Wales, Newport/Prifysgol Cymru, Casnewydd Caerleon Campus/Campws Caerllion, Newport/Casnewydd NP18 3QT Tel: +44 (0)1633.432675 'You may not be able to change the world but at least you can embarrass the guilty' (Jessica Mitford) ________________________________ From: medieval-religion - Scholarly discussions of medieval religious culture on behalf of John Briggs Sent: Sat 08/11/2008 11:41 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [M-R] misericords medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture Madeleine Gray wrote: > > But we both still have the impression that there is more available in > England (and Wales) for misericords in very ordinary parish churches. Actually, it is a bit of a mystery as to why misericords are to be found in 'very ordinary parish churches'. The presence of misericords strongly implies the presence of a choir singing the Office, which seems a tad unlikely for 'very ordinary parish churches'. But the woodwork can't all be post-Dissolution imports. Equally mysterious is the fine set of contemporary choirstalls in the early 16th-century private chapel at The Vyne (Hampshire), which seem unaltered (although I worry about the hatpegs...) even if they had been transferred from the Holy Ghost Chapel in Basingstoke (as the stained glass appears to have been) - but they have fixed seats and no misericords! John Briggs ********************************************************************** To join the list, send the message: join medieval-religion YOUR NAME to: [log in to unmask] To send a message to the list, address it to: [log in to unmask] To leave the list, send the message: leave medieval-religion to: [log in to unmask] In order to report problems or to contact the list's owners, write to: [log in to unmask] For further information, visit our web site: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/medieval-religion.html ********************************************************************** To join the list, send the message: join medieval-religion YOUR NAME to: [log in to unmask] To send a message to the list, address it to: [log in to unmask] To leave the list, send the message: leave medieval-religion to: [log in to unmask] In order to report problems or to contact the list's owners, write to: [log in to unmask] For further information, visit our web site: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/medieval-religion.html