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The Who Can Make Recordings? Section in the ERA guide (June 2008) states: "Copies made by an authorised resource centre or third party may only be delivered to the establishment in hard copy form (eg DVD)." You could then copy and store this on an internal server for digital access/relay. The ERA Licence DOES NOT cover BBC i-player or ITV Catch-up or any other watch again service. This is because these service are not defined as 'broadcasts' by the Copyright Act and are therefore not covered by the licence or any part of Section 35 of the CDPA Graham Titley Document Delivery and Copyright Librarian University of Plymouth Drake Circus Plymouth PL4 8AA Tel: 01752 587162 or 587161 Email: [log in to unmask] -----Original Message----- From: A general Library and Information Science list for news and discussion. [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of David Porter Sent: 13 November 2008 11:50 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: TV programme requests From my own experience I have often asked for off-air recordings following requests from staff for material they wish to use in class. Additionally a few requests have been made when some technical fault has resulted in the programmes have not being recorded. The ERA licence covers, as I understand it, all Freeview broadcasts so covers BBC, ITV, Channel 4 and Five (plus the various other channels) and resources such as BBC i-player, ITV CatchUp, 4od and myfive are all fine for users to access content at their own convenience, but require internet access and usually additional plug-ins. While most classrooms which don't have playback facilities can normally have a DVD or Video player wheeled into them, the insertion of a networked computer could be considered a little more tricky. Hence the request for Video/DVD from the list. I do have a supplementary query though regarding online material. I have a friend who records via a freeview media card in their PC and in the past they have recorded things which they thought may have been of interest. They used to supply this on VHS video but now they say it would be as easy to host the file securely online and would allow me access to download it, would this be legally allowed under the ERA licence? David David Porter Librarian Barnsley College -----Original Message----- From: Ian Jennings [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: 13 November 2008 11:03 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: TV programme requests According to Wikipedia, 30 days to start watching once downloaded then 7 days to finish the viewing once started (must make for some very complex DRM). Downloading is only an option for Windows users, whom I know are the majority but nevertheless... All in all a very limited solution to what Sheila may have had in mind as permanence and/or format shifting are not options. Ian Ian Jennings Electronic Resources Team Leader Health Sciences Library Worsley Building University of Leeds Leeds LS2 9JT -----Original Message----- From: A general Library and Information Science list for news and discussion. [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Abigail Barker Sent: 13 November 2008 10:34 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: TV programme requests It seems as though when programmes are originally broadcast they are available on iPlayer for 7 days to download, which you can then keep for 30 days, and for 30 days in total to watch 'live'. However, I've noticed that when programmes are repeated and then go on to iPlayer you can't download them, but you can watch them 'live' for 30 days. Although having said all this, they do seem to chop and change and make up the rules as they go along! Usually with something I really want to watch.... Abby Abigail Barker E-Resources Librarian University Campus Suffolk Rope Walk Ipswich Suffolk IP4 1LT -----Original Message----- From: A general Library and Information Science list for news and discussion. [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Ian Jennings Sent: 13 November 2008 10:14 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [LIS-LINK] TV programme requests Are there not limits as to how long programmes are available via iPlayer after initial broadcast? 7 days? Plus, not everything is then made available via this platform. Ian Jennings Electronic Resources Team Leader Health Sciences Library Worsley Building University of Leeds Leeds LS2 9JT -----Original Message----- From: A general Library and Information Science list for news and discussion. [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Sheila Thomas Sent: 13 November 2008 09:18 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: TV programme requests Please, could someone satisfy my curiosity? We seem to get a lot of these requests on the list; I was surprised at first but am getting used to it. However, I can't help wondering, are they not often available on the web these days, e.g. BBC iPlayer? (When we get requests of this sort at work, it's usually because someone forgot to set their video recorder, or it failed in some way.) -- Sheila Thomas BA MCLIP MWeldI Weldasearch Manager [log in to unmask] TWI Ltd, Granta Park, Great Abington, Cambridge, CB21 6AL, UK www.twi.co.uk & weldasearch.com TWI Ltd Registered Number: 3859442 England Registered Office: Granta Park, Great Abington, Cambridge, CB21 6AL, UK _______________________________________________________________________ The information in this e-mail is confidential, and may be legally privileged. It is intended only for the person(s) specified in the above address. 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