This has been a long standing problem as we all know but options are being developed and it may be useful to look at the Infty Project with OCR and a Reader http://www.inftyproject.org/en/index.html Best wishes E.A. Mrs E.A. Draffan Learning Societies Lab, ECS, University of Southampton, Tel +44 (0)23 8059 7246 http://www.lexdis.ecs.soton.ac.uk http://www.emptech.info -----Original Message----- From: Discussion list for disabled students and their support staff. [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Peter J Halls Sent: 05 November 2008 07:08 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Jaws John, if the document contains significant equations or other mathematical material, the source is most likely to be TeX, or one of its derivatives, rather than Word / OpenOffice Writer ... and, in such cases, there can be no .doc or .rtf format. In this case, PDF is pretty much the only (nearly) accessible format available. So far as I can see, we are a long way from achieving accessible maths. Peter John Conway wrote: > Well said. > > even truly accessible PDF are inaccessible to dyslexics who cannot change font face or colour schemes! One such student has just had to have a reader in an exam solely because the document supplied for use during the exam was only available as a PDF image and so she could not read it. > > surely it should be obligatory to supply the Word or RTF version???? > > > Dr John S Conway BSc PhD FGS FRGS FHEA MNADP > Director, MSc International Rural Development > Director, BSc Countryside Management > Chair, Research Committee > Principal Lecturer : Soil Science > Disability Officer > Royal Agricultural college, Cirencester, Glos GL7 6JS > 01285 652531 fax 01285 650219 > > ________________________________ > > From: Discussion list for disabled students and their support staff. on behalf of Silver, Liz > Sent: Tue 04/11/2008 14:07 > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: Jaws > > > Hi, > > Following the replies you have already received, there are a couple of major factors being overlooked. First of all, even if the alternative technology such as Thunder can be loaded onto a memory stick, not all Jaws users will want to be having to use technology which is not as useful or flexible as Jaws, and will not want to have to learn how to use this new software. Secondly, even with a PDF file which is readable using Jaws, they are still a pain in all sorts of places as it is really difficult to actually search say for a specific word in the document and even if you can get over that hurdle, there is then no way of actually marking what you have found or adding any notes for future reference. Speaking as a Jaws user, as might be obvious, I think When told that something is only available in PDF the response should always be that it is required in Word or RTF etc and this is a reasonable adjustment and just having to cope with a PDF version is not acceptable. Rant ove r! > > Cheers, > > Liz > > Liz Silver > Disability Officer > Student Support Services > Nottingham Trent University > Working Monday to Thursday > Phone: 0115 848 4495 > Minicom: 18001 0115 848 4495 > E-mail: [log in to unmask] > > > ________________________________ > > From: Discussion list for disabled students and their support staff. [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Callaghan, Brigid > Sent: 03 November 2008 13:57 > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Jaws > > > > Hello, > > > > Does anyone know of any developments in the assistive technology world for blind students? Is there any better package available than Jaws, which has fewer problems or none at all in fact with 'reading' PDF. 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