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Dear all I'd note that we also have time off at Easter. Dave -----Original Message----- From: HE Administrators equal opportunities list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Rajyaguru Dipen Sent: 11 November 2008 15:13 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Extra paid leave for Eid Hi All, Christmas is a state holiday and not necessarily, a religious holiday, from what little I know, December 25th is the pagan festival of 'Saturnalia' and not the birth of Jesus. Although I would be happy to celebrate both! However, I do not think Christians should have (or want) special dispensation even if Christianity is a state religion. There are several arguments not in the least that we should be a secular country and may lead to religious discrimination, but with the rise of other Abrahamic (including Islam) religions via proselytizing, the UK may not soon be able to argue that it is predominantly Christian. Sorry, probably not helped, but hope to have provided some useful info! Kind regards, Dipen Dipen Rajyaguru LL.B (Hons) Health Equality & Diversity Specialist Barnet PCT 020 8937 7709 -----Original Message----- From: HE Administrators equal opportunities list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Ratchford, Dave Sent: 11 November 2008 14:30 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Extra paid leave for Eid Hi Berry, My own view (if asked to respond by this institution) would be to say that 'Christmas' is actually a state holiday. The fact that a proportion of the country celebrate it as a religious festival is entirely incidental in 2008. Although, having said that, Christianity is still the state religion. So you could argue for special dispensation for Christians because of that. Nevertheless, the reality is that Christmas Day and Boxing Day have become convenient national holidays. Consequently, any specific request for paid religious leave (from any quarter - in the event a Christian asked for some lesser festival off etc) would not be granted by us as I see it. Regards, Dave Dave Ratchford Equality & Diversity Manager Nottingham Trent University 109B Dryden Centre Dryden Street Nottingham NG1 4FZ Tel: 0115 848 2904 Fax: 0115 848 6584 [log in to unmask] http://www2.ntu.ac.uk/EQO Please note that this communication is in confidence from the Equality and Diversity Team. If it has reached you in error, please delete immediately and notify the Team on the above number given by the Sender. -----Original Message----- Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 12:52:58 -0000 From: "Dicker, Berry J." <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Extra paid leave for Eid Dear colleagues, As I know that practice on such things may change over time I would like to know how you would respond to a request for additional paid leave for Eid on the basis that Christians get paid leave over Christmas. Taking these days as part of normal leave allowance is not an issue. Our position has been that these are concessionary days for everyone and any additional leave is part of your normal allowance as set out in the University allowances. What would you say? Berry This email is intended solely for the addressee. It may contain private and confidential information. If you are not the intended addressee, please take no action based on it nor show a copy to anyone. In this case, please reply to this email to highlight the error. Opinions and information in this email that do not relate to the official business of Nottingham Trent University shall be understood as neither given nor endorsed by the University. Nottingham Trent University has taken steps to ensure that this email and any attachments are virus-free, but we do advise that the recipient should check that the email and its attachments are actually virus free. This is in keeping with good computing practice. DISCLAIMER: This email is confidential but may have to be disclosed under the Freedom of Information Act 2000, the Data Protection Act 1998 or the Environmental Information Regulations 2004. If you are not the person or organisation it was meant for, apologies, please ignore it, delete it and notify us. E-mails may be monitored. The views, opinions, conclusions and other information expressed in this message are solely those of the author and are not endorsed by Barnet Primary Care Trust unless otherwise indicated by an authorized representative. All reasonable precautions have been taken to ensure no viruses are present in this e-mail. However it is the responsibility of the recipient to ensure that this email and any attachments are virus free. Barnet Primary Care Trust accepts no responsibility for any loss or damage arising from the use of this email or its attachments. Please note that the integrity and security of this message cannot be guaranteed on the Internet. This incoming email to UWE has been independently scanned for viruses by McAfee anti-virus software and none were detected This email was independently scanned for viruses by McAfee anti-virus software and none were found