you are right about private messages Rowdy. I do find some off the message and conversation which is going as a dialog between 2 parts about topics which can be interesting for others. In this case it is not privat messages its a dialog about tc and evaluation tools and staff trening. I have responded to tony using reply button but wrote in norweigan which I see is excluding otheres to be a part or to learn something about the challeges we are discussing for that I appoligies. Hilsen Carsten Hald Faglig ledere Samtun. tlf 90937093 [log in to unmask] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rowdy Yates" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 3:00 PM Subject: Re: [EFTC] [SPAM] Re: [EFTC] Evaluation tools Carsten Perhaps your private messages to Anthony could be sent off-list?? I don't think the rest of us need to see them. Indeed, most list-members will not be able to understand them since only a few list-members speak Norwegian. Rowdy Yates Senior Research Fellow Scottish Addiction Studies Dept. of Applied Social Science University of Stirling Scotland T: +44 (0) 1786-467737 F: +44 (0) 1786-466299 W: http://www.dass.stir.ac.uk/sections/showsection.php?id=4 (home) W: http://www.drugslibrary.stir.ac.uk/ (online library) ________________________________________ From: Therapeutic Communities [[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Carsten Hald [[log in to unmask]] Sent: 09 October 2008 14:03 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [EFTC] [SPAM] Re: [EFTC] Evaluation tools takk tony håper du symposiumet var nyttig. Er lei meg for jeg ikke kunne delta. angående amerikansk dvd versjon er det slik å forstå at vi må ha spesiell utsty for å kunne vise dette ? Rewgner med at Rowdy lykes med å eurpeiske versjon av dvden snarest. Hilsen Carsten Hald Faglig ledere Samtun. tlf 90937093 [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> ----- Original Message ----- From: Anthony Slater<mailto:[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 9:43 AM Subject: Re: [EFTC] [SPAM] Re: [EFTC] Evaluation tools Hi Carsten, I Have Just returned from the EWODOR/EFTC Symposium in Sweden, so will send you the evaluation tools as soon as I can from the office. In response to the other question, here is the mailing address to Rod Mullen at Amity Foundation: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> Rowdy is currently in discussions with Rod and George regarding making a European version of the DVD’s as some people find it difficult to watch them due to the USA format. Med vennlig hilsen, Anthony From: Therapeutic Communities [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Carsten Hald Sent: 6. oktober 2008 08:20 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [EFTC] [SPAM] Re: [EFTC] New Book from Axel Klein hei Tony. jeg har ikke Rod`s adresse har du den ? angåernde Kessel og evalueringsverktøy, så har jeg ikke fått tak i dem, men har bestemt meg for å få dem oversatt. Har du skrevet til Kessel og fått fat i dem ? I så fall kan du videre sende dem til meg. på forhånd takk. Hilsen Carsten Hald Faglig ledere Samtun. tlf 90937093 [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> ----- Original Message ----- From: Anthony Slater<mailto:[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> Sent: Friday, October 03, 2008 9:24 AM Subject: Re: [EFTC] [SPAM] Re: [EFTC] New Book from Axel Klein Hei Carsten, Thanks, it was good to see you again; it’s been a long time. I’ll send you the details regarding the DVD’s; they have to be ordered from Rod Mullen at Amity Foundation in the USA. Rowdy also has the information I think. But, if you have Rod’s mailing address you can contact him direct. I sent a mail to Kessel, last night, as the evaluation tools is not or I couldn’t find them on the NDRI web site, as free downloads. But if you have them already, that’s good. Today is the last day for us with George, this time, so we hope to move forward a little more. Talk to you later, Have a nice break, Best wishes, Tony ________________________________ From: Therapeutic Communities [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Carsten Hald Sent: Friday, October 03, 2008 8:35 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [EFTC] [SPAM] Re: [EFTC] New Book from Axel Klein hei tony. Igjen takk for 2 fine dager på Haga. På hvilken måte kan jeg få tak i de 3 dvdèr " Communuty as method, model and method" med George ? Detsverre kan jeg ikke reise til Sverige neste uke ( høst ferie her og jeg trenges). Jeg kommer til å få oversatt CAI CAS og SAS til norsk , skal sende det til all når dette er gjort ( Aasta skal gjøre jobben) igjen takk for hjelpen Hilsen Carsten Hald Faglig ledere Samtun. tlf 90937093 [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> ----- Original Message ----- From: Anthony Slater<mailto:[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> Sent: Friday, October 03, 2008 8:25 AM Subject: Re: [EFTC] [SPAM] Re: [EFTC] New Book from Axel Klein Hello Robbie, It’s good to hear from you again, sorry to hear about the diabetes, so take good care of yourself. There is only one Robbie! There are a number of additional DVD’s available, by Rod Mullen (how to improve encounter groups) lot’s of interesting footage from the old synannon days, as a comparison to the century. The 3 that you refer to are the “Community as Method, theory, model and method”, we use them here and find the information very useful. I also have a large number of new staff, so we are no doubt in the same boat, still as we say, you alone can do it, but you can’t do it alone. Today we are on the final day of 5 days training with George at Phoenix House Haga, which has been very good, I have to run now or the old codger will tell me off for being late! Talk to you later, take care Anthony From: Therapeutic Communities [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Robbie Sent: 3. oktober 2008 06:05 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [EFTC] [SPAM] Re: [EFTC] New Book from Axel Klein Hi antony I have just e-mailed rowdy and they are the training dvds that george had with him at Slovena, three of them I believe. Hope all is well Robbie -----Original Message----- From: Therapeutic Communities [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Anthony Slater Sent: Monday, 29 September 2008 4:01 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: [SPAM] Re: [EFTC] New Book from Axel Klein Importance: High Robbie, George is with us at Phoenix this week; I’m just going to pick him up now. I can also contact Rod Mullen, if Rowdy needs some assistance. Which DVS’s do you want? Anthony From: Therapeutic Communities [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Robbie Sent: 29. september 2008 03:33 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [EFTC] New Book from Axel Klein Hi rowdy Interested in a copy of Alexl Klein book , could you let me know the publishers. Talked to George at the ATCA conference about his training DVDs , still no luck with Aminty, but he suggested that you might be able to acquire a copy. All the best Robbie -----Original Message----- From: Therapeutic Communities [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Rowdy Yates Sent: Sunday, 28 September 2008 7:16 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: [EFTC] New Book from Axel Klein Hi. I have been asked by Axel Klein to circulate details of his new book: “Drugs and the World” An anthropological approach to the study of psychoactive drugs London: Reaktion Conventionally, studies in the drugs field focus on some form of medical or social pathology, from addiction to organised crime. Yet drugs also play a constructive role, from their centrality in religious rituals to their part in the growth of trade among nation-states. The book then moves on to investigate the modern policies that define certain substances as drugs; the link between drugs, addiction, and crime; and the prevailing control regime around the world that has largely failed to control global drug trafficking. Drawing on studies from the Caribbean, West Africa and Eastern Europe the book proposes solutions that could reinforce the eroded power of state institutions, law enforcement, and the democratic process in addressing drug trafficking. Axel Klein is a social anthropologist by training, who has conducted fieldwork on drug related issues in different parts of the world. He is now working at the Centre for Health Service Studies at the University of Kent. Rowdy Yates Senior Research Fellow Scottish Addiction Studies Dept. of Applied Social Science University of Stirling Scotland E: [log in to unmask] T: +44 (0) 1786-467737 W: http://www.dass.stir.ac.uk/sections/showsection.php?id=4 (home) http://www.drugslibrary.stir.ac.uk/ (library) ________________________________ Academic Excellence at the Heart of Scotland. The University of Stirling is a charity registered in Scotland, number SC 011159. -- Academic Excellence at the Heart of Scotland. The University of Stirling is a charity registered in Scotland, number SC 011159.