> 1. can anyone point me to a good example of a paper where a standard VBM > analysis, but using DARTEL, was used. I am unclear about the best way to > write this up... Look for papers by Stonnington, Kloppel or Draganski from the last year or so. > > 2. Secondly, some recent correspondence on DARTEL has drawn a dichotomy > between 'VBM using DARTEL' and 'optimised VBM'. However, this seems odd to > me - using DARTEL tools is still optimised VBM, is it not? The idea is to use the most accurate pre-processing available at the time, in order that any differences you detect will be easier to interpret in terms of volumetric differences - rather than systematic misregistration or systematic misclassification. I'm not very keen on the terminology "optimised VBM". That was just one approach, whereby we found that we could obtain more accurate spatial normalisation by matching GM from the individual with a GM template image. The unified segmentation of SPM5 kind of had this built in. The best evidence I currently have available to me suggests that DARTEL should give higher inter-subject registration accuracy than any of the other registration approaches in SPM. The other parts of the "optimised VBM" strategy were: 1) Scale the warped data by the Jacobian determinants ("modulation"). This gives images that have a quantitative meaning in terms of tissue volume. Not using the Jacobian scaling means that the warped GM images are not quantitative, and the statisical tests are a kind of evaluation of intersubject registration accuracy (differences indicate registration errors). 2) Maybe the use of a "custom template". The main reason for this was that the old segmentation routines did an initial affine registration by minimising the least squares difference between a template and the image to segment. Because each group seems to have MR scans with different properties, then this registration does not necessarily work so well (as the contrast etc of the images constituting the template differs from that of the images being segmented). In the unified segmentation of SPM5 onwards, the contrast in the images is less important, so there is less need for such custom templates. Best regards, -John