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Just to clarify the situation, I have been told categorically by Ekow that as I am being made redundant there will be no more 'media arts' at the ICA. 
Live arts will be covered by the exhibitions dept as part of their programme and the music dept.

best
emma


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From: Curating digital art - www.crumbweb.org on behalf of Christiane Paul
Sent: Sun 10/19/2008 2:06 AM
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Subject: Re: [NEW-MEDIA-CURATING] Live and Media Arts at the ICA
 
Hi everyone,
I agree that termination of new media programs at cultural institutions per se is nothing new, we have seen it before, for many different reasons.

I also agree with Simon's comment that the following statement by Ekow Eshun wouldn't necessarily need to be read in a negative way:

"I no longer feel that the artistic rationale for devoting considerable institutional?attention to that art form - to the extent of maintaining a dedicated department to its pursuance - can be strongly made."

This ideally would mean that new media arts are considered part of contemporary artistic practice and find their place in the institution's programming - something we presumably would all support. (Of course the reality most of the time is that new media arts drop off the map as soon as they lose their dedicated space).

What I find deeply disturbing is the following comment:

"New media based arts practice continues to have its place within the arts sector. However it's my consideration that, in the main, the art form lacks the depth and cultural urgency to justify the ICA's continued and significant investment in a Live & Media Arts department."

Wow. (Live &) New media arts lack 1) depth and 2) cultural urgency. 

1) Is it the first art form in the history of art that, overall, lacks depth? One could make a very strong argument that any art form produces works that lack depth, works that are mediocre, works that are good and works that are outstanding. I guess new media arts are exceptional after all.

2) New media arts is the only art form that uses the technologies, which have profoundly changed societies around the planet, as a medium. The information society, globalization, connectivity (from the work place to 'social networking' / Web 2.0), immaterial labor  - the list could be much longer - are supported and enabled by these technologies. While not all new media art comments on the social / cultural / political condition, it seems to be *the* art form with prime potential for cultural urgency. (And I'm not saying that any other art form couldn't exhibit the latter).

I suspect that many people in the traditional art world share Eshun's opinion. To the best of my knowledge he is the first who shuts down a program by blatantly dismissing the art form. I'm looking forward to seeing his version of an "ambitious artistic plan."

Christiane




 


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From: Curating digital art - www.crumbweb.org on behalf of marc garrett
Sent: Sat 10/18/2008 11:46 AM
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Subject: Re: Live and Media Arts at the ICA
 
Hi Simon & all,

I agree with Simon. It does seem that the ICA are sending a strong
message that they wish to maintain an old fashioned, perspective on
things by keeping mediums and practices apart from each other. Such an
approach is a mistake and only serves to show the world outside, how out
of touch they are with contemporary culture as a whole.

And yes, it is a great pity, not only for culture generally but also for
their audience, who are being sold a very limited vision of things.

It also sends a rather dispiriting message that they are no longer an
interesting or viable option to show at, or worthwhile collaborating
with. It also gives the impression that they are all hiding behind some
kind of castle, trying to hold together some ideal, which does not
relate to the world outside. It is a shame that they have chosen not to
expand and take on new forms of creativity in a more positive manner.
Yet, this is their choice and perhaps it is more about keeping certain
jobs in the ICA - at the top. And unfortunately, those who are staying
in these positions at the top, are perhaps less interested in
contemporary art and its ever expanding, nuances. Not interested in
relearning, adapting their knowledge about media art and other related
practices.


I think that Emma is probably best out of there.

marc
>   
> Johnny is right and I take back what I wrote before. Or, rather, I wish to
> finesse it. Media arts, in the sense they are understood at the ICA (art
> that employs media) is, as I stated before, well and truly part of the
> mainstream of arts practice and therefore not having a specific program to
> engage it shouldn¹t be surprising nor necessarily a bad thing. However,
> creative media practice which facilitates, by its very nature, an expanded
> notion of what art can be ­ well, that is what Johnny is proposing. It is
> something that is a force for change, for creating new modalities, new forms
> of engagement, new social formations.
>
> In this respect the ICA¹s decision seems to evidence their wish not to be
> involved with any meaningful challenge of the status quo. It wishes to see
> art that is ³art², music that is ³music² and cinema that is ³cinema². That
> is a great pity.
>
> Regards
>
> Simon
>
>
> On 18/10/08 12:40, "Professor SR Golding" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>   
>> Dear Emma and List
>> It is disturbing, but not surprising, to hear of the kind of
>> short-sightedness and ill-conceived departure of live & media arts
>> from the ICA, especially under the misleading tag line of those arts
>> no longer being 'cutting edge'.  We find at the Univ of Greenwich in
>> London that our MA-PHD Media Arts Philosophy and Practice Programme
>> has increased over the years by 300%, with huge home, EU, and
>> international interest.  We have just established a cross-fertilizing
>> Media Arts Production BA/BSc with two Schools: The Humanities and
>> Social Sciences and School of Computing Mathematical Sciences.  The
>> cutting edge work of artists, combined with philosophers, journalists
>> and scientists has been and continues to be exciting and provocative
>> -- and our situation is not unique.  There are many universities,
>> post-academic and creative commons environments that are doing
>> precisely this kind of combination -- led by the live arts and
>> encompassed in the broad term of 'media arts', where the latter
>> ('media arts') points not to a 'sub-set' of technologies, but names
>> the paradigm shift of our age (eg, after 'liberal arts'), where speed,
>> energy, space, time embed themselves differently in the visual and
>> sonic arts, or what has been termed elsewhere as the 'altermodern'.
>>
>> How this substantial and lush environment could have escaped the eye
>> of the Director at the ICA is not clear from his letter.
>>
>> However, what is much more obvious is that the role of the 'art
>> institute', and especially the ICA, seems to have lost its shine.
>> Perhaps art galleries/ contemporary art institutes never did encourage
>> cutting edge works -- but now, at least in terms of the ICA, it
>> definitely is not encouraging it.  The Gallery/institute appears to
>> have recoiled back to the safe shores of being a service sector
>> environment to the usual suspects of capital, industry, and banality.
>> Pity, really.
>>
>> Guess we'll just have to go elsewhere -- but then, isn't that the
>> usual story for  
>> artists-philosophers-scientists-designers-curios-thinkers-doers?
>>
>> Johnny de Philo
>>
>>
>>
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>>      Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 14:23:43 -0700
>>      From: marcialart <[log in to unmask]>
>> Reply-To: marcialart <[log in to unmask]>
>>   Subject: Re: Live and Media Arts at the ICA
>>        To: [log in to unmask]
>>
>>
>>     
>>>> Dear Emma,
>>>>
>>>> Sorry to hear about this.  It's sad for you and the ICA, and
>>>> astonishingly short-sighted on the part of the director, especially
>>>> as the ICA was THE germinal institution for new media / computer
>>>> based art with its pioneering 1968 presentation of Cybernetic
>>>> Serendipity curated by Jasia Reichardt.
>>>>
>>>> Best regards and good wishes to you in the next phase of your
>>>> career, and congratulations on your accomplishments @ the ICA.
>>>>
>>>> Marcia Tanner
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Oct 17, 2008, at 10:11:13 AM, "Emma Quinn" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>> From:   "Emma Quinn" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> Subject:    [NEW-MEDIA-CURATING] Live and Media Arts at the ICA
>>>> Date:   October 17, 2008 10:11:13 AM PDT
>>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>> Apologies for the blanket e-mail and any cross postings
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It is with sadness that I am writing to announce the closure of the
>>>> ICA's Live and Media Arts Department. I have included a statement by
>>>> Ekow Eshun, the Artistic Director of the ICA below.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I am continuing with the programme here until the end of November 2008
>>>> and will then be looking to develop and expand the programme with other
>>>> partners and venues.  I will of course update you on new developments as
>>>> they occur.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thank you for your support and interest in the department's projects
>>>> during my time at the helm, and please do make the most of the rather
>>>> full line-up running over the next couple of months. It would be
>>>> wonderful if you could continue to show your support by attending what
>>>> will be an exciting finale.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.ica.org.uk/?lid=12173
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I have enjoyed my time at the ICA tremendously and this has been a
>>>> direct result of working with some fantastic artists and practitioners.
>>>> The opportunity and privilege to work on the many exciting,
>>>> thought-provoking and thoroughly enjoyable projects over the last 3
>>>> years, has provided me with new challenges, joy, energy, pride, insight,
>>>> thrills and above all has made me very very happy! I am very much
>>>> looking forward to continuing with these established relationships as
>>>> well as generating new ones in the next stage of my career.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I will be contacting everyone again before I leave with my personal
>>>> contact details should you wish to stay in touch.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thank you for your time.
>>>>
>>>> Kind regards
>>>>
>>>> emma
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --- From Ekow Eshun, Artistic Director of the ICA ---
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Following a review of the ICA's programming activities I have taken the
>>>> decision to close the Live & Media Arts department from the end of
>>>> November 2008.
>>>>
>>>> The ICA has led a pioneering role in new media arts practice over the
>>>> last decade and more.
>>>>
>>>> We are proud of that legacy. However times change. And I no longer feel
>>>> that the artistic rationale for devoting considerable institutional
>>>> attention to that art form - to the extent of maintaining a dedicated
>>>> department to its pursuance - can be strongly made.
>>>>
>>>> As an institution dedicated to the contemporary moment it is important
>>>> that we continually review the timeliness and relevance of our
>>>> activities and at times make decisions on that basis.
>>>>
>>>> New media based arts practice continues to have its place within the
>>>> arts sector. However it's my consideration that, in the main, the art
>>>> form lacks the depth and cultural urgency to justify the ICA's continued
>>>> and significant investment in a Live & Media Arts department. Following
>>>> discussion with the ICA Council and the Arts Council - and agreement
>>>> from both bodies - I have decided to close the department.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It's also my view that the sheer breadth of activity that our artistic
>>>> programme encompasses means that we are often stretched too thin as an
>>>> organisation. Our technical, building and financial resources are under
>>>> considerable strain and it is hard for us to communicate our aims to our
>>>> audience with directness and clarity.
>>>>
>>>> In closing the Live & Media Arts department, we will be able to invest
>>>> greater resources in a more concentrated programme of activities,
>>>> allowing us to create a more ambitious artistic plan for 2009/10. And in
>>>> communication with the public, the focus of our activity will be
>>>> exclusively on Visual Arts, Cinema, Talks and Music.
>>>>
>>>> In addition, these changes will offer the opportunity for the Digital
>>>> Studio to be reconstituted as a dedicated Education space, offering a
>>>> valuable benefit to an important and growing section of our audience
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ---End---
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Emma Quinn
>>>> Director of Live & Media Arts
>>>> ---------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Institute of Contemporary Arts
>>>> The Mall, London, SW1Y 5AH
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>>>> t: +44 (0)20 7766 1415
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