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medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture From: John Dillon <[log in to unmask]> > Note the papal colors on that bumbershoot. It's a _conopeum_ or _ombrellino_, the usual visible sign of a papal basilica. > See (lower down) here: > http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basilique_religieuse > and here: > http://www.saintspeterandpaul.us/basilica.htm well, Truth be Told, my lack of Expertise in the sub-specialty of Bumbershoot Iconography is only marginally greater than in that of Laptop History, so i suppose i'll have to accept your word for how suchlike artifacts should be properly nomenclatured. however, as to the colors, it seems that the b&w woodcut of the Chartres badge http://ariadne.org/cc/badges/forgeais/forgeais4_ 115.jpg rather accurately the [lack of] polychromy on the original, which was in pewter. 12th-13th c. Chartres cathedral not being (to my knowledge) a Papal Basilica, my best guess is that some Papa or other simply stole the idea of using a Liturgical Bumbershoot as part of the Armes of suchlike a building. what struck me about the original German example on the page you quoted was its shape, which echoed somewhat the unusual form of the artifacts which appear on the Chartres badge. of course, the German one is in its Flacid/Non-Erect posture, presumably for interior viewing; while the one on the coats of armes which you indicated above are in the Full Upright, Erect & Ready-for-Action Mode. so, the question remains, why didn't the "artist" who created the figures on the Chartres artifact depict that mode --if, indeed, his spade-like Whatsits are even Bumbershoots at all-- since his objects are clearly an important part of the processional scene he's trying to represent? i note, with regret, that neither "conopeum" nor "ombrellino" rated an article in Cabrol-Leclercq's massive _Dictionnaire d'archeologie et de liturgie chretienne_; which is a great shame, since i'm sure that those guys could have Done a Number on the pre-Carolingian history of suchlike Thingies. > A search for 'conopeum' in Google images will brings up several examples. as well it should. facinating stuff http://www.sms.si.edu/IRLSpec/Conope_seurat.htm http://www.marlin.ac.uk/species/Conopeumreticulum.htm ahhh... here's one being carried in the Non-Erect position http://lh4.ggpht.com/chris.ochoa/SB2bp1B7cFI/AAAAAAAAEBw/pG46ElwXM30/s720/DSCF2920.jpg or, perhaps, these ones don't really open up like Normal Bumbershoots and the ones on the Papal Basilican Armes are just overly-optimistic and suffering from Viagra posioning? butbut, no, Wait! the could the thingies on the badge be, not Bumbersooteums at all, but rather Tintinnabulae? yes, the Chartres artifacts http://ariadne.org/cc/badges/forgeais/forgeais4_ 115.jpg do, indeed, closely resemble http://home.online.no/~araronse/Mycenakey/tintinnabulum.htm or even (less likely) http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/92/Tintinnabulum.jpg or some middlevil variant of the one on the left here http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/ce/Procession_of_the_Precious_Blood_of_Jesus_Christ-Bruges;_het_conopeum.JPG this sort of Thingie, http://www.katholiek.org/pictures/tintinnabulum.jpg but without the sharp peak at the top. a liturgical bell, carried on a pole in processions. it it my Firm Belief that the Chartres Pilgrims' Badges, crude though they are, depicted scenes which would have been immediately recognizable --in all their details-- to anyone who had actually gone to the cathedral and witnessed them. otOh, the images.google.com search also turned up this Looser http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2004/06/images/20040617-4_012t2497-515h.jpg which suggests, unless i'm seriously misunderestimating it, that this Innernets Thingie is not quite perfected. yet. c > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Christopher Crockett <[log in to unmask]> > Date: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 10:23 am > Subject: Re: [M-R] saints of the day 21. October > To: [log in to unmask] > > > > medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture > > > > From: John Dillon <[log in to unmask]> > > > > > 3) Wendelin (d. later 6h or early 7th cent.?). > > > > > In about 1050 _Basonis villare_, now St. Wendel in the Saarland, > > began to be > > called by the name of its saint. Its originally fourteenth-century church > > dedicated to him houses his putative remains in a raised tomb > > (Hochgrab) that > > was dedicated in 1360. Some exterior views of the church: > > > > > Other interior views of the church, including (lower down on the > > page) views > > of the tomb, will be found here: > > > http://www.sankt-wendelinus.de/index.php?id=196 > > > > > > listmembers cursed with exceptionally good memories may recall that > > the topic > > of Liturgical/Processional Umbrellas came up a couple of years ago --in > > connection with their appearance on at least one Pilgrims' Badge from > > Chartres. > > > > http://ariadne.org/cc/badges/newbadges.html > > > > http://ariadne.org/cc/badges/forgeais/forgeais4_115.jpg > > > > here's a nice one, which seems to echo the (somewhat unusual?) form of > > the > > Chartres exemplars: > > > > http://www.sankt-wendelinus.de/typo3temp/pics/d7cbdb981a.jpg > > > > an expandable view is available on the original page, near the bottom: > > > > http://www.sankt-wendelinus.de/index.php?id=196 > > > > keep in mind that the Chartres badge is quite small and, in quality, hardly > > "high" art --scale isn't really a consideration. > > > > anyway, they look more like bumbershoots than digging spades, if we have > > something to compare them to. > > > > c > > ********************************************************************** > To join the list, send the message: join medieval-religion YOUR NAME > to: [log in to unmask] > To send a message to the list, address it to: > [log in to unmask] > To leave the list, send the message: leave medieval-religion > to: [log in to unmask] > In order to report problems or to contact the list's owners, write to: > [log in to unmask] > For further information, visit our web site: > http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/medieval-religion.html > ********************************************************************** To join the list, send the message: join medieval-religion YOUR NAME to: [log in to unmask] To send a message to the list, address it to: [log in to unmask] To leave the list, send the message: leave medieval-religion to: [log in to unmask] In order to report problems or to contact the list's owners, write to: [log in to unmask] For further information, visit our web site: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/medieval-religion.html