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Hi, I work at a centre where we use Edexcel ESOL papers. The students seem to quite like the topics, and it is equally regarded for Citizenship. In theory it works as you have mentioned below. In practice, if you have more than a few students, you have to be very disciplined as a centre in record keeping. Internal marking means that you have to somehow persuade the teachers to mark large piles of papers (particularly onerus if there are large groups of students at Entry 3 and above). Similarly, internal verification means that you have to make sure standardisation of marking takes place for writing and speaking before the exams, and all the papers have to be checked again after they've been marked, which takes up many further staffing hours! As other national ESOL qualifications, it has its benefits and some drawbacks. Philippa > > > *From:* ESOL-Research discussion forum and message board [mailto: > [log in to unmask]] *On Behalf Of *Helen Cottington > *Sent:* 10 October 2008 20:06 > *To:* [log in to unmask] > *Subject:* ESOL qualifications > > > > Just wondering if there's anyone out there who uses the EDEXCEL ESOL > qualification? We use the Literacy one for our Literacy programmes and it > would appear to be much more achievable for ESOL students as well as less > palaver to administer as the exams (apart from the Literacy test) appear to > be done in the class, internally marked and internally and externally > moderated. Am I right in thinking it also means students can do exams when > they are ready and the papers only get sent off if they pass? It seems too > good to be true and I wonder what the draw backs might be….is it equally > regarded for Citizenship for example and does it have the same or similar > credibility as other quals?? As we have been struggling to get people > through full quals with the limited hours we do-especially at the higher > levels, and as our success rates at this level are not brilliant, just > wondering if this might be a way forward. Any help grateful accepted. > > > > Helen > > ** > > *The Mary Ward Centre,* 42 Queen Square, London, WC1N 3AQ > Web: www.marywardcentre.ac.uk e-mail: [log in to unmask] > Tel: +44 (0)20 7269 6000 Fax: +44 (0)20 7269 6001 Minicom: +44 (0)20 7269 > 6010 > > This message is intended solely for the addressee(s) in the first instance > and may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended > recipient, please notify the sender, delete the message from your system > immediately and do not disclose the contents to any other party. > *********************************** ESOL-Research is a forum for > researchers and practitioners with an interest in research into teaching and > learning ESOL. ESOL-Research is managed by James Simpson at the Centre for > Language Education Research, School of Education, University of Leeds. To > join or leave ESOL-Research, visit > http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/ESOL-RESEARCH.html A quick guide to using > Jiscmail lists can be found at: > http://jiscmail.ac.uk/help/using/quickuser.htm To contact the list owner, > send an email to [log in to unmask] *********************************** ESOL-Research is a forum for researchers and practitioners with an interest in research into teaching and learning ESOL. ESOL-Research is managed by James Simpson at the Centre for Language Education Research, School of Education, University of Leeds. To join or leave ESOL-Research, visit http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/ESOL-RESEARCH.html A quick guide to using Jiscmail lists can be found at: http://jiscmail.ac.uk/help/using/quickuser.htm To contact the list owner, send an email to [log in to unmask]