When I was a young man ( and I still think I am) we saw
patients and obtained a history and examination and then made appropriate
requests. Now the patient arrives and has lots of blood taken (or at least
lots of tests done) and we work out what has happened afterwards. It appears
that anybody can make a request these days, although we are at the start of a
long road in Wales to ensure that requests are made only by those who have been
trained and accredited. This might even include doctors!
So what happened to doctors? There have been various
discussions about the ability of junior doctors (and senior ones) to request and
interpret appropriately. Why do we spend £250K training doctors and then not
allowing them to use a brain cell? Is this modernisation?
What do others think?
John
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[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Helen Verrill
Sent: 23 September 2008 14:09
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Subject: Admission tests
A few weeks ago I
posted a query on the mailbase regarding the use of standardised clinically
based protocols for tests requested in A&E / Emergency Admission Unit. I
promised I would compile a summary of replies and also attached our agreed
protocol. Thanks to all who responded, it's been a useful exercise,
Helen
One
of the benefits we found was that we could change the profiles, in agreement
with the consultant staff, without having a major publicity campaign to inform
all the medical staff who were making the requests to either start asking for a
test or to stop asking for one in a particular group of patients. For example,
the chest pain screen initially included TSH and troponin T. However, after
auditing the results, we removed both. With the TSH, we found we had a group of
regular patients admitted with chest pain post large doses of alcohol and they
were getting TSH assayed monthly or more frequently. With the Troponin-T, we
found that the majority of patients were seen well within 12 hours of on-set of
symptoms and we were concerned that they might be discharged on the basis of a
negative TnT and enzymes which had not had time to become elevated.
We
tried this approach but as the nurses do most of the initial requesting, it
never really worked and caused lots of add on tests. We now have a specific
A&E form , with a Biochemistry profile which is the same for all patients.
The only additional tests we routinely allow are bHCG and coagulation for
specific conditions. This has almost completely eliminated add-ons and
streamlined requesting in A&E,. The cost of doing additional tests is
offset by the savings in not doing the tests that are on the routine request
form , eg. Cardiac enzymes, TFTs . There are also labour saving costs in terms
of data entry, and requesting in A&E is very simple and liked by the
medical staff as they have all the results available when they see the patient.
I realise this is form based but thought you may be interested in a more
radical approach that works very well for all concerned.
We
have a number of protocols for use in A&E and AAU
MEDA
(Medical Admission Profile)
U&E,Creat(=
UEC),LFT,CRP (the answer to life , the universe....),Calcium
Group(CG),Glucose,Full Blood Count(FBC)
FNOF
(# neck of femur) as MEDA, but no CRP plus TSH if not done within last 3 months
ABDO
(abdo pain) as MEDA but no Calcium Group, plus amylase
CP1
(Chest pain 1st sample) as MEDA plus Troponin, Clotting Studies(CS) and
Cholesterol but no CG
CVA
(Stroke) as MEDA plus Chol & CS and ESR
TRAU
(Trauma) UEC,LFT,AMYL,FBC,CS
APPX
(Appendix) UEC,CRP,FBC Moreover, we do not do TSH for A&E cases unless relevant
clinical info, such as Atrial Fibrillation; this is blocked by the computer
system. These were agreed with the A&E / AAU consultants and work quite
well.
We
implemented this for A&E and CDU (acute admissions units) over two years
ago. The main objective was to minimize the number of times the out-of-hours
BMS staff needed to be contacted for "add on" tests so improving the
use of time for both junior doctors and BMSs. We were therefore deliberately
fairly generous with what was in the profiles. These were discussed extensively
with the consultants in both areas.
A
further observation - it is often NOT doctors making these initial admission
requests but nursing staff - so that the results might be available when the
doctor sees the patient.
We
have four clinical profiles:
"Abdo
Pain": FBC, U&E. Glu, Amyl, LFT
"Infection?"
: FBC, Clotting, U&E, Glu, LFT, CRP
"Self-poisoning":
FBC, INR, U&E, Glu, LFT, Alcohol, Salicylate, Paracetaol
"Chest
pain": FBC, U&E, LFT, Cardiac enzymes
I
agree the content is subject to lots of debate but they are well used and have
cut down add on interruptions
We
tried on a medical ward (cardiology) - they wouldn't entertain one click when
they could make six (even though they requested the same things in 95% of
cases). Clinical freedom an all that
<<admission_profile_0908.doc>>
Helen Verrill
Consultant
Clinical Scientist
North Tees and
Hartlepool NHS Foundation Trust
01642 624455
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