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A PS that comes to mind, Doug, my understanding is that Edgar Allen
Poe is a great poet in nineteenth century French translation.

all the Best

Dave

2008/8/29 David Bircumshaw <[log in to unmask]>:
> Maybe something like that, Doug. I believe Shelley has cut a role
> among some Arabic poets.
>
> Last year I had the privilege of doing a reading with two Iraqi poets:
> the English translations of their work were really dreadful, but when
> you heard them reading the originals, the sonic properties were
> dizzying.
>
> At the same time, my cautionary tale would be the one-time reputation
> Rabindrath Tagore's work had. I'm told, by those who know, that his
> poems in Bengali are just as corny as in translation. T
>
> Best
>
> Dave
>
> 2008/8/28 Douglas Barbour <[log in to unmask]>:
>> No disagreement here on that, Dave, but I'm not sure what you found so awful
>> about Darwish's statement.
>>
>> Perhaps many of us in the safe West never had that thought that poetry could
>> change others' lives etc., but that doesn't mean such a thought has never
>> been thought in bad times, nor that it might not be thought, sincerely by
>> the one thinking it, in such places as Palestine or those you mention. And
>> that eventually, the rather bitter realization comes...
>>
>> Perhaps he hoped to be a kind of Shelley? Not knowing that even Shelley
>> really didn't manage that...?
>>
>> Or?
>>
>> Doug
>> On 27-Aug-08, at 4:42 PM, David Bircumshaw wrote:
>>
>>> I don't know, Doug, I'm not a Palestinian. I feel uneasy talking about
>>> Darwish's poems, I can't read or write Arabic, the translations I see
>>> do seem platitudinous, it does not of course mean that the originals
>>> are.
>>>
>>> I do know that people find it very comfortable to latch on to
>>> suffering elsewhere, and the further away the better, rather than in
>>> their own back yards. One of the points in Patrick White's Nobel
>>> acceptance speech hits home on that.
>>>
>>> I can well imagine that there are people in,say, Mansfield, or
>>> Anchorage Alaska, or Bognor Regis, or Vladivostok, or wherever, that
>>> suffer just as much in their own way as anyone anywhere else.
>>
>> Douglas Barbour
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