Yes Jacqui, I know what you mean, i.e: Sed cum proclamantibus naumachiariis: ‘Ave imperator, morituri te salutant!’ (I think) I too had a Latin teacher who, I am convinced was a guard in a labour camp, a female (!) one at that.! Oh happy days. Anyway, thank you all for your help, I think I now have an idea of this person's medical problem. Cheers Jay Ave Caesar, morituri te salutamus" This form of the "salute" is of course inaccurate. The "salute" is taken from Suetonius’ "De vita Caesarum" XXI, 6: "Sed cum proclamantibus naumachiariis: ‘Ave imperator, morituri te salutant!’ respondisset: ‘Aut non’" ----- Original Message ----- From: jacqui livock To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 9:47 PM Subject: Re: [OCC-HEALTH] Diagnosis hi previously the polish physicians i have had corresponsdance from have used ICD took me while to know what they were doing and eventually i thought nothing of a note saying he is being treated for a 19 and i could look up what it was., I would think this (in my 1980's latin class) was chest fisulas from skin.... ...oh the joys of catholic school...and what i now know to be a latin teacher with a diagnosable mental health condition which in this day and age would preclude him from teaching!! jacqui caercillius est in villa (cecil is in the house!!)canis est in villa (the dog is in the house!!) strange what stays with you into adulthood --- On Fri, 8/8/08, Alan <[log in to unmask]> wrote: From: Alan <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: [OCC-HEALTH] Diagnosis To: [log in to unmask] Date: Friday, 8 August, 2008, 6:33 PM Naevi are pigmented lesions cum fistula = with a fistula, which is a narrow duct or passage Tegm = I have no idea, could this be a mis-spelling? thoracis = of the thorax Unless you can re-interpret Tegm, it could be anything from zits on his chest wall that have been draining onto the skin to melanoma deposits or anything in-between! Sorry not to have been more helpful Alan ( latin for Alan) Jay Chapman wrote: To all my erudite colleagues I need help! I have a client who is ill in his native Poland. His medical certificate has arrived duly translated but, the diagnosis is in Latin as far as I can see. It is some years since I did that venerable subject and I am well aware that its reference to medical subjects is far from straightforward. However, I do need to know what my client is suffering from. Is there anyone out there who can translate the following for me please? My efforts do not make sense! 'Naevi cum fistula tegm thoracis' I hate seeming to be ignorant but I really cannot untangle this. Regards Jay ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Please remove this footer before replying. OCC-HEALTH ARCHIVES: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/occ-health.html CONFERENCES AND STUDY DAYS: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/filearea.cgi?LMGT1=OCC-HEALTH OCCUPATIONAL HEALTH JOBS http://OHJobs.drmaze.net OCCUPATIONAL HEALTH NURSING EDUCATION http://www.aohne.org.uk ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Please remove this footer before replying. OCC-HEALTH ARCHIVES: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/occ-health.html CONFERENCES AND STUDY DAYS: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/filearea.cgi?LMGT1=OCC-HEALTH OCCUPATIONAL HEALTH JOBS http://OHJobs.drmaze.net OCCUPATIONAL HEALTH NURSING EDUCATION http://www.aohne.org.uk ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Not happy with your email address? Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at Yahoo! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Please remove this footer before replying. OCC-HEALTH ARCHIVES: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/occ-health.html CONFERENCES AND STUDY DAYS: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/filearea.cgi?LMGT1=OCC-HEALTH OCCUPATIONAL HEALTH JOBS http://OHJobs.drmaze.net OCCUPATIONAL HEALTH NURSING EDUCATION http://www.aohne.org.uk ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Please remove this footer before replying. OCC-HEALTH ARCHIVES: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/occ-health.html CONFERENCES AND STUDY DAYS: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/filearea.cgi?LMGT1=OCC-HEALTH OCCUPATIONAL HEALTH JOBS http://OHJobs.drmaze.net OCCUPATIONAL HEALTH NURSING EDUCATION http://www.aohne.org.uk