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medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture Dear Vera, That's what I had suspected. It's not an idiom. What it is is an elaboration of a common phrase: "aliquem per caputium trahere/capere". If you Google the simple phrase "per caputium" you'll find several examples. In this case, there are plural demons and the form of torment they are practicing is to pull their victim in different directions (_dis_trahere), thus driving him to distraction (in the sense of mental anguish). Best, John Dillon On Saturday, August 23, 2008, at 2:32 pm, Vera von der Osten - Sacken wrote: > Dear John, > "Per cappam vel caputium distrahebant" is the part of the phrase, that > I > don't understand. I gues, this is an idiomatic. Maybe I just confused > the > issue, but I don't have a clue. Do you know what this could mean: > "alqm per > cappam vel caputium distrahere" ? > Best greetings ! > Vera > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: medieval-religion - Scholarly discussions of medieval > > religious culture [mailto:[log in to unmask]] > > On Behalf Of John Dillon > > Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 3:26 PM > > To: [log in to unmask] > > Subject: Re: [M-R] Question to latinists > > > > > > Dear Vera, > > > > Within the matter that you quote what is the specific wording > > that you think might be idiomatic? > > > > Best, > > John Dillon > > > > On Friday, August 22, 2008, at 2:11 pm. Vera von der Osten - > > Sacken wroe: > > > > > Dear listmembers, > > > In Jacques de Vitrys Vita beatae Mariae Oigniacensis I found the > > > following phrase. "(Quidam etiam diaboli satellites, virum > > nobilem & > > > talibus injuriis non assuetum,) per cappam vel caputium > > distrahebant." > > > I think, it is an idiom, but I have no idea, what it could > > mean. So I > > > hope for you. Can you help me ? > > > Many thanks in advance and best greetings ! > > > Yours Vera > > > > ********************************************************************** > > To join the list, send the message: join medieval-religion YOUR NAME > > to: [log in to unmask] > > To send a message to the list, address it to: > > [log in to unmask] > > To leave the list, send the message: leave medieval-religion > > to: [log in to unmask] > > In order to report problems or to contact the list's owners, write to: > > [log in to unmask] > > For further information, visit our web site: > > http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/medieval-religion.html > > > > ********************************************************************** > To join the list, send the message: join medieval-religion YOUR NAME > to: [log in to unmask] > To send a message to the list, address it to: > [log in to unmask] > To leave the list, send the message: leave medieval-religion > to: [log in to unmask] > In order to report problems or to contact the list's owners, write to: > [log in to unmask] > For further information, visit our web site: > http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/medieval-religion.html ********************************************************************** To join the list, send the message: join medieval-religion YOUR NAME to: [log in to unmask] To send a message to the list, address it to: [log in to unmask] To leave the list, send the message: leave medieval-religion to: [log in to unmask] In order to report problems or to contact the list's owners, write to: [log in to unmask] For further information, visit our web site: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/medieval-religion.html