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Handsworth's DDA/small person level is 750mm from finished floor level [front/back of the free standing desk] which becomes working height staff side, if they choose to sit. The top level is 1000mm from finished floor, internally illuminated, and a sandwich of acrylic/toughened glass - assist avoid any barrier effect. [Handsworth Library lettering laser cut in.] Comfortable height for standing working and users. [Perfect height for a bar - John D!] [Handsworth have a great staff team] Desk incorporates/conceals all it/data/services/security/cash drawers/storage/cable management, etc. etc. Very little sign of clutter! Alan - you might call Joan Henderson Head Librarian - 'coming up to two years' user feedback! 0121 464 0119. We'll take the risk - Handsworth was the first Library we had ever designed [we're hospitality designers] - still learning/looking to improve. Hope this all adds power to your elbow!! Pauline L Owen For JOHN HUNT ASSOCIATES, JHA designers AWARD WINNING HANDSWORTH COMMUNITY LIBRARY CILIP Public Library Awards - Winner 2007/8 Interior Design Category FX International Design Awards 2007 - Public Spaces, short listed 1 of 6 In a message dated 27/08/2008 GMT Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: excellent advice. I thought the Devon one looked like a chopped out one (sorry, but it did seem like that and very old fashioned and unappealing) f Frances Hendrix Martin House Farm, Hilltop Lane, Whittle le Woods, Chorley, Lancs PR6 7QR, UK tel: 01257 274 833. fax: 01257 266 488 email: [log in to unmask] ----- Original Message ----- From: jhadesigners To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 2:50 PM Subject: Re: Counter Design Agree - BUT: Avoid - high 'bit', low 'bit'. Substitute the word 'level' [designer speak!]. Also avoid the stereotypical 'cut out' - drawing everyone's attention to, rather than integrating, DDA users. DDA/Kid friendly level/s should be designed in - not 'chopped out', like an after thought. [For chopped-out bits see majority of shelving manufacturers 'standard ranges'.] Pauline L Owen/JHA In a message dated 27/08/2008 GMT Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: Yes! You need a high bit for people standing to rest their books/take notes on, and a low bit for wheelchairs/tired people to sit/in-depth discussions. I also think a main counter makes a very useful focus. It is frequently unclear in some banks and libraries which activities should be done at which desks, and you can miss a place in the relevant queue by a moment's hesitiation. Carol Woodward Resource Librarian The Metro Anniesland College 19 Hatfield Drive Glasgow G12 0YE tel. 0141 357 6109 Get the MapQuest Toolbar. Directions, Traffic, Gas Prices & More!