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Hello,

Was Spenser a social climber? If you think he was, do you think this
manifested itself in any way in his poetry?

Thanks,

Imogen Marcus

On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 6:46 PM, Arlen Nydam <[log in to unmask]>
wrote:

> Don't forget about archive.org's Texts section. Tons of out-of-copyright
> books there, and new ones being added constantly. And if you download the
> PDFs, they are searchable (though you may have to search for words like
> "pafsion" and "fuperftition" to get accurate results). I have had problems
> viewing them in Preview (a Mac PDF and image viewing program) but no
> problems at all when using Acrobat Reader or Acrobat Pro.
>
> Google Books pdfs are, or were, searchable only online. Archive.org's are
> more useful in this respect.
>
>
>
> On 6/27/08, anne prescott <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>>  I know that Joe Loewenstein had my 1609 Spenser scanned by his library so
>> he and his gang could use it in collations for the new Oxford Spenser; I'm
>> glad to have it so I can stroke it and smell the paper, but it's boringly
>> clean and free of interesting annotations.  I don't know if the library
>> makes it available to others or not. Joe would know. But of course for
>> anyone with access to EEBO and ECCO the top ten editions before 1800 are
>> already online in some form. Maybe what we need digitalized are the
>> Victorian ones with pictures. One thing to look up on ECCO (which is easier
>> to do than EEBO because 18th c. type is so much easier to search) is book
>> sale lists that include Spenser. Then you long for a time transporter to go
>> back and buy them cheap. I do recommend ECCO (Eighteenth Century Catalogues
>> [I think] Online) for Spenserians. You do a search for "Spenser" or "Sidney"
>> and wonderful things turn up.       On David's thoughts in his recent
>> posting on paper and disks and what lasts etc. I was at a dinner party once
>> long ago with a bunch of publishers because my late husband was in the
>> publishing biz at one point and there was the then curator of rare books at
>> the Morgan Library, who interrupted, laughing, to say that when the other
>> guests' books were dust his would still be here, and they didn't disagree.
>> Anne.
>>     PS: in case anyone is wondering, AMS Press tells me that yes, they are
>> aware that Spenser Studies should do more with the Internet and they are
>> trying to negotiate some way of posting back issues. Stay tuned.
>>
>> On Jun 27, 2008, at 2:09 PM, John Geraghty wrote:
>>
>> What would be the Top Ten Spenser editions or resources that should be
>> online?
>>
>> I have the 1611 and 1679 Works (*
>> http://www.johngeraghty.com/Literature/Texts/Spenser/*<http://www.johngeraghty.com/Literature/Texts/Spenser/>),
>> and think I have a decent OCR for the concordance.
>>
>> If anyone has had any luck with OCR and 17th century texts, I'd
>> appreciate hearing about it.
>>
>> Thanks for the link.
>>
>> -John
>>
>> ***  F or who so list into the heauens looke,*
>>
>> *  A nd search the courses of the rowling spheares,*
>>
>> *  S hall find that from the point, where they first tooke*
>>
>> *  T heir setting forth, in these few thousand yeares*
>>
>> *     They all are wandred much; that plaine appeares.*
>>
>> *  I s now hight vertue, and so vs'd of all:*
>>
>> *  R ight now is wrong, and wrong that was is right,*
>>
>> *  A s all things else in time are chaunged quight.*
>>
>> *  N e wonder; for the heauens reuolution*
>>
>> *  I s wandred farre from where it first was pight,*
>>
>> *  A nd so doe make contrarie constitution*
>>
>>
>> *finierat voces Polyhymnia: dicta probarunt*
>>
>> *Clioque et curvae scita Thalia lyrae.*
>>
>> *excipit Uranie: fecere silentia cunctae,*
>>
>> *et vox audiri nulla, nisi illa, potest.*
>>
>> *-FASTi  Liber V*****
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Sidney-Spenser Discussion List [
>> mailto:[log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]>] On
>> Behalf Of Anne Prescott
>> Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 10:31 AM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: Upton's Spenser available for free download
>>
>> Thanks, David. Now where to I apply for a grant to pay for the toner,
>>
>> paper, and maybe new printer.? Great news, though, and cheaper than
>>
>> the original. I do recommend going on "addall.com" just to see the
>>
>> prices of early Spensers and be reminded of what's out there but
>>
>> unaffordable. Oh to be seriously rich! Anne.
>>
>> On Jun 27, 2008, at 12:57 PM, David Wilson-Okamura wrote:
>>
>> > on Google Books: http://books.google.com/books?id=laNYAAAAMAAJ
>>
>> >
>>
>> > Searchable, too, subject to the limits of OCR technology, on which
>>
>> > see Anthony Grafton in the New Yorker last fall: http://
>>
>> > www.newyorker.com/reporting/2007/11/05/071105fa_fact_grafton
>>
>> >
>>
>> > And what everyone needs, Aen. I-II in Spenserian stanzas: http://
>>
>> > books.google.com/books?id=aGcCAAAAQAAJ
>>
>> >
>>
>> > What else is here?
>>
>> >
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>> > Dr. David Wilson-Okamura    http://virgil.org
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>> > [log in to unmask]
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>> > English Department          Virgil reception, discussion,
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>> > documents, &c
>>
>> > East Carolina University    Sparsa et neglecta coegi. -- Claude
>>
>> > Fauchet
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