Very interesting questions. To the question: Why do you write, I heard the following answers (which does not mean I agree with them): Out of passion; Because poetry is breath for me; To find answers, to give a perspective to events and facts that goes beyond what is; To make people mad, .... have a great day, Anny On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 3:24 PM, Joseph Duemer <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > "How do we, as poets, sustain the/this vocation?" > > Stephen, that, for me, was the most crucial part of your original post, and > in that post as well as in this follow-up you recognize a set of social > forces acting on or in relationship to the writing of poetry. On a cosmic > scale, of course, all our lives are ephemeral. We will die, the sun will > burn out, the universe collapse (or expand infinitely toward nothingness) & > in spite of this we cook meals, get married, take jobs, write poems, strive > for fame, etc. But to say that we write poems only to drop them into the > abyss seems sophomoric to me -- it's a shallow response. A related response > is to note the true fact that much (but not all) literary publishing > depends > on various minor forms of corruption & so to hell with it. So those books > you're reviewing -- you're right -- will slide most likely into oblivion. > What keeps those writers writing? What is the direct payoff? How do they > continue to write with conviction? Isn't part of "sustaining" a literary > life having a system of publication & distribution that makes sense? That > is, isn't publication of some sort part of the way we sustain a writing > life? "Of some sort" then becomes the thing that needs defining. What sort? > > jd > > > On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 1:13 PM, Robin Hamilton < > [log in to unmask]> wrote: > > > Interesting. Toward the end of my teaching career, my university > >> accepted my web publications as equal to my 'real'. page-based, ones. > >> > > > > How old are you, Doug, or in which country? > > > > For me, even hard-copy counted against me. > > > > "Do you find that writing poetry *interferes with your teaching, > Dr. > > Hamilton?" > > > > Having been turned down for at least four jobs because I wrote poetry, it > > was hysterically funny to find myself stopped at the Efficiency Bar. > > > > {Not that the Suits could actujllly *do anything to me, as I'd already > > topped the salary limit.) > > > > If you write poetry in the UK, you don't just button your mouth but you > > sew your lips shut. > > > > Or it was once. > > > > {One of the killers in the UK was "peer reviewed publications". That > meant > > poets and dramturges made common cause. > > > > Fuck all good it did, and it all went down te tank when the UK Academic > > Academic Review Exercise decided to exclude reviews. > > > > Do you *know how long it takes to write a decemt review if there are > maybe > > three people in the ever-loving world who'd bother to read what you say? > > Same time it takes takes to write a (peer reviewed) article. > > > > Natch, the Lost Boys (good on then) promptly stopped writing revew > articles > > ... > > > > End result is if you read an academic review today, you get what you you > > pay for -- if you pay monkeys, you get peanuts. > > > > Way it goes ... > > > > :-( > > > > R. > > > > > > -- > Joseph Duemer > Professor of Humanities > Clarkson University > Weblog: sharpsand.net > -- Anny Ballardini http://annyballardini.blogspot.com/ http://www.fieralingue.it/modules.php?name=poetshome http://www.moriapoetry.com/ebooks.html I Tell You: One must still have chaos in one to give birth to a dancing star!