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medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture Ad intellectum 'felix culpa' ... ... St Isaac the Syrian (or of Ninive) - 7th c. - argued that no one can be so dull as to think that such a majestically wonderful act as the Incarnation happened because of a sin ... As is he anticipated the theme central to Anselm :) And, as you may well know, John Duns Scotus also rejected the idea that the original sin was necessary for the Incarnation. (I. Hausherr published the fundamental article on the subject) Now Scotus was surely ignorant of St Isaac. What they seem to have understood was that the Incarnation was rather due to God gloryfying his own name, than to anything else, let alone some human failure. BTW, what is the earliest testimony for the Exsultet with the "felix culpa"? (Again a very Latin idea, isn't it?) Valete, George Gyorgy Gereby associate professor Mediaeval Studies Department Central European University Budapest V. Nador u. 9. H-1051 Hungary Email: [log in to unmask] Skype: ggereby4 Phone/Fax/a.m.: + 36.1.34 12 634 Mobile: + 36.30.99 69 874 >>> Charles Giguere <[log in to unmask]> 7/28/2008 3:49 PM >>> medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture O felix culpa? ----- Original Message ----- From: <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 2:02 AM Subject: Re: [M-R] Joachim, Anne and Immaculate Conception > I concede. The matter is pre-medieval and goes back to a Latin > mistranslation of the original Greek source. Was it Hieronymous? > > > - > ********************************************************************** > To join the list, send the message: join medieval-religion YOUR NAME > to: [log in to unmask] > To send a message to the list, address it to: > [log in to unmask] > To leave the list, send the message: leave medieval-religion > to: [log in to unmask] > In order to report problems or to contact the list's owners, write to: > [log in to unmask] > For further information, visit our web site: > http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/medieval-religion.html > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: > 270.5.6/1576 - Release Date: 7/27/2008 4:16 PM > > > ********************************************************************** To join the list, send the message: join medieval-religion YOUR NAME to: [log in to unmask] To send a message to the list, address it to: [log in to unmask] To leave the list, send the message: leave medieval-religion to: [log in to unmask] In order to report problems or to contact the list's owners, write to: [log in to unmask] For further information, visit our web site: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/medieval-religion.html ********************************************************************** To join the list, send the message: join medieval-religion YOUR NAME to: [log in to unmask] To send a message to the list, address it to: [log in to unmask] To leave the list, send the message: leave medieval-religion to: [log in to unmask] In order to report problems or to contact the list's owners, write to: [log in to unmask] For further information, visit our web site: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/medieval-religion.html