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medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture Also, Tom, Augustine was at pains to claim -- whether justifiably or not is another matter -- that his notion of peccatum originale was based on earlier traditions in East and West. See especially Contra Iulianum lib. 1, where he quotes Irenaeus, Cyprian, Reticius of Autun, Olympius, Hilary, Ambrose, Innocent I, Gregory Nazianzen, the Synod of Diospolis, John Chrysostom (at length), Basil, and Jerome. Perhaps it's obvious, or perhaps worth saying anyway, that the fact that the Immaculate Conception is of 19th-century definition does not mean it was not of medieval concern. It's well known that Bernard of Clairvaux opposed Eadmer's idea as an unwelcome innovation, and that nearly all the leading theologians of the late 12th and 13th centuries opposed it (Peter Lombard, Alexander of Hales, Bonaventure, Albert the Great, Thomas Aquinas, &c.). The Franciscans William of Ware and Duns Scotus persuaded their followers of the opposite position. In mid-15th century, Paris and other universities began to require an oath to defend the doctrine, and even Thomist Dominican opposition eventually weakened. -- Paul Chandler 2008/7/28 Tom Izbicki <[log in to unmask]> > medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture > > Being a librarian, I ran "peccatum originale" through the Patrologia > latina. The term is in Augustine's works. Mostly in minor works, but I add > this text: > > Augustinus Hipponensis: > > S. AURELII AUGUSTINI HIPPONENSIS EPISCOPI ENCHIRIDION AD LAURENTIUM SIVE DE > FIDE, SPE ET CHARITATE LIBER UNUS . (C) /214Kb/ < > http://pld.chadwyck.com/all/fulltext?ACTION=byid&warn=N&id=Z400053061&div=4&FILE=../session/1217252741_6877&DBOFFSET=33836926&ENTRIES=86> > > *Found 1 hit:* > > CAPUT XLVIII. /1Kb/ < > http://pld.chadwyck.com/all/fulltext?ALL=Y&action=byid&warn=N&id=Z500053109&div=5&file=../session/1217252741_6877&SOMQUERY=1&DBOFFSET=33836926&ENTRIES=86&CURDB=pld> > > > 14. [H]Peccatum originale non aboletur nisi per Christum. Illud tamen unum > peccatum,... > > I will leave the origfins of the concept to the theologians, but later > Western texts would echo this terminology. > > Tom Izbicki > > > > > <[log in to unmask]> > -- Paul Chandler, O.Carm. | Institutum Carmelitanum via Sforza Pallavicini, 10 | 00193 - Roma | Italy tel: +39-06-6810.0849 | fax: +39-06-6830.7200 [log in to unmask] | carmelitana.blogspot.com which is here, near St Peter's and Castel S. Angelo: < http://tinyurl.com/42wgk2> (A marks the spot) ********************************************************************** To join the list, send the message: join medieval-religion YOUR NAME to: [log in to unmask] To send a message to the list, address it to: [log in to unmask] To leave the list, send the message: leave medieval-religion to: [log in to unmask] In order to report problems or to contact the list's owners, write to: [log in to unmask] For further information, visit our web site: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/medieval-religion.html