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Yes, I thought Jon was, albeit in his inimitably cutting style, also being 'critical'. Not for the first time he made me laugh out loud anyway and made me think. And he didn't swear. Shame. And James - on a much more general, practical level, don't be put off applying for any job by what the advert says; unless any institution has very specific, immovable narrowly defined needs and follows those through to appointment in a very focused way, you never know... Duncan -----Original Message----- From: A forum for critical and radical geographers [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of D F J Wood Sent: 02 July 2008 19:35 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: temporary lectureship at Leeds Metropolitan University I thought it was pretty clear that Jon was satirising the reactions of others... but apparently not clear enough! David. -----Original Message----- From: A forum for critical and radical geographers [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Pamela Shurmer-Smith Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 7:24 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: temporary lectureship at Leeds Metropolitan University I am shocked to have seen such unsympathetic responses as Jon Cloke's to the perfectly reasonable questioning of the status of a potential application. I note that many of the "shocked" comments have been made by visibly white men, safely in post, who presumably are not intending to give up their positions in the name of equality. Having lived in Southern Africa at a time when everything was classified by race, I wince at the fact that stating one's ethnic/racial identity is now conventional. I refuse to participate in this and always write "none" where asked irrelevant questions about my genetic/social make-up. As to certainty about membership of this list, increasing numbers of us are wondering. Pamela Shurmer-Smith Portsmouth UK --- On Wed, 2/7/08, Jon Cloke <[log in to unmask]> wrote: From: Jon Cloke <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: temporary lectureship at Leeds Metropolitan University To: [log in to unmask] Date: Wednesday, 2 July, 2008, 2:58 PM James, How dare you/are you sure this list is for you/you make me ashamed to be a critical geographer, etc., etc. Jon Cloke ________________________________ Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 13:20:52 +0100 From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: temporary lectureship at Leeds Metropolitan University To: [log in to unmask] Hi, Thank you for letting us know about the lecturer position at Leeds Metropolitan University (below). This is certainly something that would interest me. As we all know job applications take considerable time to complete, so I would like some clarification regarding the advert. Without ruffling too many feathers, and simply for clarification; as I am a white British male, am I encouraged to apply? In short, merit aside, would I effectively be wasting my time in completing the application? Best Regards James -- James Ian Bridges Doctoral Research, Durham University, Department of Geography Room 301, Science Site, South Road, Durham, DH1 3LE, United Kingdom Mob: 07905798770 Tel: +44 (0)191 3341866 Fax: +44 (0)191 3341801 Email: [log in to unmask] Website: http://www.dur.ac.uk/geography/ ------------ From: A forum for critical and radical geographers [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Edwards, Bronwen Sent: 02 July 2008 09:41 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: temporary lectureship at Leeds Metropolitan University Please bring this to the attention of anyone you know who might be interested. The deadline is 12pm Friday 4th July, so there isn't much time!. Bronwen Dr Bronwen Edwards Senior Lecturer in Human Geography Leeds Metropolitan University School of the Built Environment Northern Terrace Queen Square Court Civic Quarter Leeds LS2 8AJ tel: 0113 8129157 fax: 0113 8121958 email: [log in to unmask] <http://www.jobs.ac.uk/clients/84> Lecturer/Senior Lecturer Human Geography School of the Built Environment An equal opportunities employer Faculty of Arts and Society Ref: FAS/C6/CS/LSL/HG/JAC Temporary - to provide maternity cover Lecturer: up to £36,912 pa - Senior Lecturer: up to £42,791 pa A Lecturer/Senior Lecturer in Human Geography is required to contribute to the continued development of a strong and dynamic portfolio of undergraduate and postgraduate courses. You should possess a PhD, or nearing completion of a doctorate. You will be a teacher and researcher who can demonstrate a commitment to high-quality teaching and research in two or more of the following areas: Spatial Planning, Sustainable Development, Urban Regeneration, Research Methodology, Social Geography, Cultural Geography or Planning Theory. Women and people from black and ethnic minority groups are encouraged to apply as they are under represented in this area of work. Selection will be on the basis of merit. Application forms and further details can be downloaded from http://jobs.leedsmet.ac.uk/ Alternatively, please telephone 0113 812 5917 or e-mail: [log in to unmask] Closing date: Noon - Friday 4 July 2008 ________________________________ Not happy with your email address? 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