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Another Academic Study of Magic post - you MAY want to follow the link to look at the OTO trademark case stuff. L. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Harms" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 2:01 AM Subject: Re: [ACADEMIC-STUDY-MAGIC] OTO legal case Is there a link to the actual decision anywhere? Thanks, Dan Harms Coordinator of Instruction Librarian SUNY Cortland Memorial Library P. O. Box 2000 Cortland, NY 13045 (607) 753-4042 -----Original Message----- From: Society for The Academic Study of Magic [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of D E Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 11:47 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: [ACADEMIC-STUDY-MAGIC] OTO legal case given the toruble we had the other week with moving towards a flame war on other topics, thanks everyone for NOT going nuts regarding the recent announcement of the OTO trademark legal case, for example as is reported here: http://abrahadabra.net/2008/06/19/oto-wins-trademark-case/ for those who have not heard, in brief it is not about who has legitimate succession or anything of that nature, but it decided the Caliphate OTO are the only ones who can use those contentious initials as a trademark now, in the UK but the judgment is more complex than that.... and the resulting fallout has all but killed a non-academic but usually very intelligent e-list that i visit regularly, with several folk whom i had great respect for behaving in bizarre and upsetting ways, up to and including threatening eachother with violence so, thanks for not tearing eachother to pieces about it here as well! If anyone does want to make a thread about it can we *please* keep it stringently academic (perhaps we have some lawyers on the list who can give useful commnet on that angle of the case, for example?) and not take it down to a 'my OTO is better than your OTO' bun-fight dave e