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Rick Thanks - good idea. I'll add them when I have a minute. What I think we'll do is have a more comprehensive list in the library when we upgrade it (a lot of this depends on my capacity to "charm" a trust manager at a dinner very soon - she's interested in the idea but wants to meet with me and talk it through). I'm also thinking about a student project resource area. Answering basic student queries about TC approaches. As you probably know, there is a commitment here in Stirling to establishing an online postgraduate module on TC approaches so in a loose way this stuff should start to hang together a little bit better soon. When George De Leon was over in March we roughed out a structure for a simple keyword searchable database of TC-related articles - I think I've mentioned this on the list before and you very kindly sent me a bunch of references. Not much has happened since then other than mapping out the structure but if we get new money to restructure the library, all of this should happen really quickly and although the library is a general drug and alcohol resource (and will become a broader focused addiction resource if we get the money), I'm making sure that TC will have a particular place in the structure. You're absolutely right to say that TCs have failed to market their effectiveness - I think much of that is the failure to link resources and provide central information points that people in the field actually KNOW about. They have also let "the opposition" sell a line to policy-makers and planners unopposed that TC is an expensive option. So my contribution to resetting this imbalance is to try to bring some of the information and teaching resources together and promote that. Also, I'll be doing a meta-analysis over the next few months to review existing cost-benefit studies (if anyone is aware of any studies of this kind - let me know) as a first step in putting together a big research bid to analyse drug treatment costs across the sector and compare TC costs to the other in a more comprehensive way than seems to have been done before. Rowdy Yates Senior Research Fellow Scottish Addiction Studies Department of Applied Social Science University of Stirling E: [log in to unmask] T: 01786 - 467737 W: http://www.dass.stir.ac.uk/sections/showsection.php?id=4 (home) W: http://www.drugslibrary.stir.ac.uk/ (library) -----Original Message----- From: Therapeutic Communities on behalf of Rick Esterly Sent: Wed 6/11/2008 12:48 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [EFTC] New Page on Scottish Addiction Studies Rowdy: What I like about you (and some others on the list ) is that you are always thinking.? I really like the idea of TCs and recovery oriented resources in one place.? You specifically mentioned "long-term substitute prescribing" in the UK.? I think that in the US it is the federal governement that promotes "long-term substitute prescribing" and many others promoting the CBT model of treatment.?The abstinance and recovery model practioners need to more aggressively?present evidence of effectiveness in journals and require it of the other models. I would like to suggest?Gaudenzia for the list - one of the oldest (founded in 1968) and?well known in the US at the following site:???????? Gaudenzia.org Rick Esterly 610-678-7635 [log in to unmask] -----Original Message----- From: Rowdy Yates <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 4:48 am Subject: [EFTC] New Page on Scottish Addiction Studies Dear List Members I rather think there is something in the air in the UK just now.? There does seem to be a resurgence of interest in abstinence based recovery and a growing dissatisfaction with the current policy of long-term substitute prescribing.? It's probably these developments which have spurred me on to re-organising the Links page on the Scottish Addictions website to include a list of therapeutic community and other recovery-oriented sites: http://www.dass.stir.ac.uk/sections/show_section_content.php?section=4&content_id=1 This is very much a work in progress and hopefully, later this summer will be accompanied by the creation of a Therapeutic Communities section in the online library. I'd appreciate any comments you might have and any suggestions for sites to be included.? At the moment, it's a pretty personal choice.? So for instance, there wouldn't be enough room for every TC so I have stuck with those which are either well-established (well known) or very influential or which I have actually visited.? With non-TC links, I have for now stuck with the various mutual-aid networks since they have certain commonalities with the TC movement. Anyway, I'd appreciate any comments, suggestions, thoughts etc. Rowdy Yates Senior Research Fellow Scottish Addiction Studies Department of Applied Social Science University of Stirling E: [log in to unmask] T: 01786 - 467737 W: http://www.dass.stir.ac.uk/sections/showsection.php?id=4 (home) W: http://www.drugslibrary.stir.ac.uk/ (library) Academic Excellence at the Heart of Scotland. The University of Stirling is a charity registered in Scotland, number SC 011159. -- Academic Excellence at the Heart of Scotland. The University of Stirling is a charity registered in Scotland, number SC 011159.