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I think, also, the globe is a little more insidious than that. I think it's part of the heritage industry; it's designed for tourism. For God, Harry etc. Nostalgia. And toy-trains - the globe reminds me of those railway enthusiasts who have to get right *every* detail of York circa 1929. Roger On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 4:32 PM, David Bircumshaw <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Almost anything's potentially a tourist trap these days. That's what > living in a culture focused on marketing does to things. > My masterplan for the coming years is to persuade the Arts Council > that I'm a rare cultural antiquity. I expect stiff competition from > Patrick. > > 2008/6/6 Roger Day <[log in to unmask]>: >> the Globe is a tourist trap, little more, little less. >> >> On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 8:01 PM, David Bircumshaw >> <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >>> The Globe isn't government subsidized you know. >>> >>> 2008/6/5 Roger Day <[log in to unmask]>: >>>> Indeed. But would that make Hamlet as good as the Mousetrap? At least >>>> the Mousetrap didn't have to be subsidized to be shown. >>>> >>>> Roger >>>> >>>> On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 2:58 PM, David Bircumshaw >>>> <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >>>>> The Mousetrap ran for years. >>>>> >>>>> 2008/6/5 Roger Day <[log in to unmask]>: >>>>>> Very little Shakespeare is played out on the professional west-end >>>>>> stage these days. Most of it is in the Shakespearean churches. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, May 26, 2008 at 12:05 AM, Mark Weiss <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >>>>>>> Roger: This is silly. Shakespeare is performed on the profesional stage in >>>>>>> the US all the time. Two years ago I saw a wonderful production of As You >>>>>>> Like It in Tucson. There are sold out summer Shakespeare festivals in >>>>>>> Oregon, New York, and Connecticut that I'm aware of. When I was a teenager a >>>>>>> complete cycle of the history plays was done at a major downtown theater in >>>>>>> NY. Lear was done on Broadway last year. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The ways of the censor tend to be unpredictable, perhaps because >>>>>>> unpredictability is such a potent weapon. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Mark >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> At 05:40 PM 5/25/2008, you wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> one swallow a summer does not make. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sun, May 25, 2008 at 6:35 PM, Mark Weiss <[log in to unmask]> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> > Right now the hottest ticket on Broadway is MacBeth, with Patrick >>>>>>>> > Stewart in >>>>>>>> > the title role. The run is sold out--even the scalpers are at a loss. >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Mark >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > At 12:47 PM 5/25/2008, you wrote: >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> Those were the days - the Lord Chamberlain (member of the Royal >>>>>>>> >> Household) and his malign influence on the British Theatre. In another >>>>>>>> >> email list, a long time ago, I mooted the theory that shakespeare's >>>>>>>> >> continuing popularity down the ages was due in part to the Bard's >>>>>>>> >> acceptability before the LC. My logic, fwiw, ran thus: you want to put >>>>>>>> >> on a play and in those days, the least likeliest plays to get banned >>>>>>>> >> were Shakespeares. So, you play safe, put on the Bard. Until the 60s, >>>>>>>> >> when the LC threw away his blue pencil. Nowadays, S hardly appears on >>>>>>>> >> the commercial stage. >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> American bannings are two a penny: their school libraries have >>>>>>>> >> committees which are battle-grounds for the inclusion/exclusion of >>>>>>>> >> books. Harry Potter is a notorious example of this - the poor, deluded >>>>>>>> >> fundies trying to stave off the influence of the heathen (WTF?). There >>>>>>>> >> are lists on line of books that have been banned in the US. Are there >>>>>>>> >> any for the UK? >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> Roger >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> On Sun, May 25, 2008 at 9:38 AM, David Bircumshaw >>>>>>>> >> <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >> > Lear was banned from performance between 1788-1820 when George III >>>>>>>> >> > was considered insane, and the link between stage and royalty would >>>>>>>> >> > be >>>>>>>> >> > too close for official comfort. Contemporaneously with this Tom Paine >>>>>>>> >> > was also banned in England and, famously, Coleridge and Wordsworth >>>>>>>> >> > were watched for talking about Spinoza (Spy-noza) >>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>> >> > While 'Silas Marner' was banned in Anaheim CA in 1978 (?!) and '1984' >>>>>>>> >> > in Florida in 1981 because it was considered 'pro-communist' (?) >>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>> >> > -- >>>>>>>> >> > David Bircumshaw >>>>>>>> >> > Website and A Chide's Alphabet >>>>>>>> >> > http://homepage.ntlworld.com/david.bircumshaw/ >>>>>>>> >> > The Animal Subsides http://www.arrowheadpress.co.uk/books/animal.html >>>>>>>> >> > Leicester Poetry Society: http://www.poetryleicester.co.uk >>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> -- >>>>>>>> >> My Stuff: http://www.badstep.net/ >>>>>>>> >> "She went out with her paint box, paints the chapel blue >>>>>>>> >> She went out with her matches, torched the car-wash too" >>>>>>>> >> The Go-Betweens >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> My Stuff: http://www.badstep.net/ >>>>>>>> "She went out with her paint box, paints the chapel blue >>>>>>>> She went out with her matches, torched the car-wash too" >>>>>>>> The Go-Betweens >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> My Stuff: http://www.badstep.net/ >>>>>> "She went out with her paint box, paints the chapel blue >>>>>> She went out with her matches, torched the car-wash too" >>>>>> The Go-Betweens >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> David Bircumshaw >>>>> Website and A Chide's Alphabet http://homepage.ntlworld.com/david.bircumshaw/ >>>>> The Animal Subsides http://www.arrowheadpress.co.uk/books/animal.html >>>>> Leicester Poetry Society: http://www.poetryleicester.co.uk >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> My Stuff: http://www.badstep.net/ >>>> "She went out with her paint box, paints the chapel blue >>>> She went out with her matches, torched the car-wash too" >>>> The Go-Betweens >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> David Bircumshaw >>> Website and A Chide's Alphabet http://homepage.ntlworld.com/david.bircumshaw/ >>> The Animal Subsides http://www.arrowheadpress.co.uk/books/animal.html >>> Leicester Poetry Society: http://www.poetryleicester.co.uk >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> My Stuff: http://www.badstep.net/ >> "She went out with her paint box, paints the chapel blue >> She went out with her matches, torched the car-wash too" >> The Go-Betweens >> > > > > -- > David Bircumshaw > Website and A Chide's Alphabet http://homepage.ntlworld.com/david.bircumshaw/ > The Animal Subsides http://www.arrowheadpress.co.uk/books/animal.html > Leicester Poetry Society: http://www.poetryleicester.co.uk > -- My Stuff: http://www.badstep.net/ "She went out with her paint box, paints the chapel blue She went out with her matches, torched the car-wash too" The Go-Betweens