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EPJS, electronic patient journey system, which allows staff access to pts electronic notes throughout the trust. Leona -----Original Message----- From: [log in to unmask] [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of N. Rostami Sent: 12 June 2008 22:35 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: [OCC-HEALTH] Employees becoming patients Hi Leona, What is EPJS ? ________________________________ From: [log in to unmask] [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Majid, Leona Sent: 12 June 2008 08:45 To: Subject: Re: [OCC-HEALTH] Employees becoming patients Hi me too, there is a reciprocal agreement, which is often forgotten. We tend to find a consultant of neighboring trust (if the GP is unwilling to refer to another trust) and then talk to them directly. Because our trust is quite big sometimes staff are happy to be seen in another area but using a pseudo name so they cannot be looked up on the EPJS, this is used particularly with outpts and community. We also have a problem with "corridor consultations" staff treating staff off the record then turning over to OH with the going gets tough! Regards Leona -----Original Message----- From: [log in to unmask] [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of sue harrison-stone Sent: 11 June 2008 14:09 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [OCC-HEALTH] Employees becoming patients Helen I work for a mental health trust. I have beeen trying to find my way through this problem and it has become quite difficult. I did check with some of my surrounding mental health trusts too and they also have problems. Some of it is because everything has to be paid for in this day and age and folk cant seem to decide on cost or on releasing the money. There is also the problem of how long do they go on to receive treatment if it is a long term problem. Do they just have one course of treatment? Do GPs and A&E also refer cause they all wont come via OH. If they go via A&E and GPs how is that monitored and do we, the Trust, have a right to know? How long after a member of staff leaves the Trust do we offer this service? Do we get reports on progress, do we have a right to expect that? Do we include families of staff? If so how long does that service be available to them? If it is also offered to families or former staff do we set up OH notes for them? A protocol was done in draft but then got stuck because of all these questions. We are having a meeting early July to see what progress has been made if any. Today I saw a client whose partenr was treated in his ward. he now feels that everytime he is off sick (often because of the partner) the rest of the staff look upon him differently than they would if they had not treated his partner. I would be interestd if anyone has sorted out even some of thease problems. Regards Sue ________________________________ Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 13:51:56 +0100 From: [log in to unmask] Subject: [OCC-HEALTH] Employees becoming patients To: [log in to unmask] Hi All My question is primarily aimed ay NHS Mental Health Trusts but I am grateful for any help. Does anyone have a protocol for the circumstance where an employee requires reciprocal care when they are unable to access within their own Trust. If so would you be willing to share? Many thanks Helen Whitelam Head of Occupational Health Leeds Partnerships Foundation Trust & South West Yorkshire Mental Health Trust Tel: 01977 605585 Mobile: 07983596211 Fax:01977 605532 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Please remove this footer before replying. 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