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HI Jean I was interested in your comment that you wouldn't get involved in adjustments/capability for dyslexia or ADHD? Why is that? Is that because you don't consider them strictly to be "ill-health" issues? In that case could you argue the same about visual or hearing disabilities? I certainly have been involved in dyslexia, aspergers, and other learning disability related cases in the past and anticipate i may be again in the future. Food for thought.. what do the others think? Carr On 21/06/2008, [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > I am interested as to why this is an occupational health issue? It is > certainly a DDA issue. We would not get involved with capability / > adjustments for dyslexia so why for ADHD? Pass it back to HR and management > for managing unless there is an underlying health condition. > Jean > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Susan Clarke <[log in to unmask]> > To: [log in to unmask] > Sent: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 13:56 > Subject: Re: [OCC-HEALTH] DDA > > Hi! I have ADHD and I am the Mother of 2 sons with ADHD! One is a > Chartered Accountant and the other a professional hairdresser. Violence or > violent acts is not associated with ADHD. It affects the learning and is a > "learning disability". Attention and concentration is affected and many > people who have ADHD are "high fliers"….Richard Branson and Whoopi Goldberg > to name just two. An Educational Psychologist should have been involved with > this person with/without a Psychiatrist and I would seek those reports. > There is lots of info on web - just Google ADHD and you can find lots of > helpful information. I manage many employees with this in a large > organization that I support. One in four males are thought to be > dyslexic/ADHD and it is very common. Regards, Sue > > Susan Clarke > Managing Director > Ock Health Ltd > > Tel: #44 1235 201280 > Mob: #44 7801 009676 > Fax: #44 1235 424308 > > www.ockhealth.com > > E: [log in to unmask] > > *From:* [log in to unmask] [mailto:[log in to unmask]<[log in to unmask]>] > *On Behalf Of *Carr Barnes > *Sent:* Thursday, June 19, 2008 11:07 AM > *To:* [log in to unmask] > *Subject:* Re: [OCC-HEALTH] DDA > > HI > > I agree with Sharon that management need to separate what appear to be > the 2 threads of this issue: > > - what is the impact on the ADHD on ability to do job and behaviour and > what adjustments should be considered. I'm not sure (althought correct me if > i'm wrong) that ADHD in itself causes voilent behaviour- this way be a trait > the employee has developed to control people around them but that is > something different entirely and should not be medicalised. > - what is a conduct issue and needs to be addressed as such i.e. > inappropriate behaviour in the workplace, not following proceedure etc. > > That way there is no confusion and the case can (hopefully) be managed > appropriately. > > Carr > > > On 19/06/2008, *Naylor, Sharon [HMPS]* <[log in to unmask]> > wrote: > I wonder - How can being unable to come in and see her manager > constitute a clinical issue and warrant sickness absence? > > Yes to DDA, however is this a clinical or performance issue? If you have > made relevant recommendations and management cant take them on board > then I would suggest that this is a management call. > > I have found the Shaw Trust to be very useful when dealing with > employees who require longer term support, especially with > ADHD/apsergers type problem > > -----Original Message----- > From: [log in to unmask] [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On > Behalf Of Nicky Johns > Sent: 19 June 2008 10:28 > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: [OCC-HEALTH] DDA > > Good morning, > > I'd be grateful for your thoughts. The organisation I work for has > recently > employed a catering assistant who has ADHD. Since the commencement of > her > employment (4 weeks) she has been late several times, had an episode of > sickness absence & is now off sick again because she is uanable to come > in > and see her Line Manager. The staff she has been working with say they > are > frightened of her as she can be aggressive in her manner and has > threatened > to kill herself for example when she could not get an appointment with > her > GP. They are worried she will attack them if they confront her about > anything, they are even worried about asking her to do the role she has > been employed to do. > > HR are arranging to meet her; howevever as her condition falls within > the > DDA and she was open about it at interview they are unsure where to go > with > this. I have suggested contacting her CPN/Social worker; all the > adjustmets > I have suggested do not fit with the business needs; additionally would > a > disability such as this mean an individual would not have to maintain > Company policies and procedures. > > I'b be grateful for you help. > > Many thanks > > Nicky > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Please remove this footer before replying. > > OCC-HEALTH ARCHIVES: > http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/occ-health.html > > CONFERENCES AND STUDY DAYS: > http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/filearea.cgi?LMGT1=OCC-HEALTH > > OCCUPATIONAL HEALTH JOBS > http://OHJobs.drmaze.net <http://ohjobs.drmaze.net/> > > OCCUPATIONAL HEALTH NURSING EDUCATION > http://www.aohne.org.uk > > This email was received from the INTERNET and scanned by the Government > Secure Intranet anti-virus service supplied by Cable&Wireless in > partnership with MessageLabs. (CCTM Certificate Number 2007/11/0032.) 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