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Am I missing something here in your question, John? This arrangement of 
stairs on each side of a raised passageway above/behind the altar to allow 
continuous circulation is fairly standard in European shrines. We've visited 
many of them and more often than not this is a standard arrangement.

Stan Metheny


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Subject: Re: [M-R] precious blood


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> John,
> You are quite right about the two staircases, one at either end of the 
> platform.  They are not
> very high, but they allow continuous circulation.  And the platform is 
> narrow enough to
> accommodate only one person at a time before the relic.  The platform is 
> set against an end
> wall, in quite a spacious area just beside the chapel proper, which itself 
> is up quite an
> imposing set of stairs from ground level.  So, there is lots of security 
> on several different
> counts.
> Cheers,
> Jim Bugslag
>
> On 6 Jun 2008 at 16:50, John Dillon wrote:
>
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>> Thanks, Jim, for the happy accident of your sending these photos to
>> the list.
>>
>> To judge from the penultimate photo (DSCN6867.JPG), space could be at
>> a premium just past the table where the Holy Blood is displayed.  Is
>> it possible to turn left there, cross over, and descend by another set
>> of steps?  Or does one have to return the way one came?
>>
>> I ask because for a relic of such significance, controlling the
>> passage of the numerous faithful past the relic and out again ought to
>> have been an important concern, at least until relatively recently.
>> The eighteenth-century redesign of the interior of Santa Maria del
>> Carmine at Naples included the erection of a raised passageway hidden
>> behind the sanctuary that allows one to enter from one side of the
>> presbytery, ascend a flight of steps and then pass along to the early
>> sixteenth-century tabernacle housing this church's (and Naples')
>> sacred Marian icon, the fourteenth(?)-century "La Bruna", continue
>> along the passageway, descend, and come out on the other side.
>>
>> Is it roughly so also in Bruges?
>>
>> Best,
>> John Dillon
>>
>> Here's a view of La Bruna:
>> http://www.napoletanita.it/foto/napoli35.jpg
>> The height at which she's placed allows a view of her, but not of
>> those in the passageway (called a chapel and indeed outfitted with a
>> small altar), through a window placed behind the main altar:
>> http://tinyurl.com/4jgmcr A view of the sanctuary (though at an angle
>> not allowing one to see the aforementioned window):
>> http://tinyurl.com/3oakjo Note the dull coloration of the marbles and
>> other facing stones: this is a Carmelite church.
>>
>>
>> On Friday, June 6, 2008, at 1:36 pm, Jim Bugslag wrote:
>>
>> > I'm attaching a few photos of the Holy Blood relic at Bruges, taken
>> > as I said, in summer 2007.  Thanks for your offer to post them for
>> > the list. Cheers, Jim Bugslag
>>
>>
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