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Hi Tom, Steve and others,
 
I realise I should have made it clear I have in mind a war-time cross-party coaliton such as in World War II.  I was far too young to understand how it was set up (Google offers, through Amazon:
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 - but it involved suspending party politics.  Clearly it could only be invoked at a time of dire emergency, but that could come quickly without much warning - especially were there a catastophic flood, heat wave, energy or financial breakdown - hence the need for preparation.  I certainly would not expect parliamentary parties or individuals to vote for it otherwise.
 
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Isn't Jim's point that a coalition would present the truth, in that there will never be a return to a 'golden age' of low energy costs (though golden for whom? you may ask? )  If this view gets enough air, Steve's yammering politicians might be seen for the vacuous opportunists they will be. Tom


At 17:34 10/06/2008, Wright, Steve wrote:
Dear Jim,
 
Why would the Tories go for a coalition when they scent labour blood? It is a common problem with single issue politics - a belief that the one agenda is of universal concern. There is a means end gap too - the fuel protestors want cheaper fuel so they can motor more... Paradoxically youre more likely to get support for a contradictory call for cheaper fuel prices.
 
Examine the debate in Manchester on congestion charging - its obvioulsy necessary but for real people with real increased short term commuter costs - the programme is a vote loser... It is likely the Manchester Labour group  will bring charging  in to take the public transport sweetner the government is offering them then become severely punished by the electorate for being responsible....
 
Alas thre truth that is and the truth that should be are vastly different. Were about to see a massive series of knockons fronm the steepening fuel costs. Food costs are already rising and heating costs will accelerate at paces unseen before. Consuming less would seem a desirable goal within the climate change context but when the images of starving people and the suffering of the dispossessed poor start to be spattered across our screens, all major politicians will be yammering for fuel price cuts. There is a Darwinian logic to much of this and it isnt pretty, humane or politically sustainable.
 
Coalitions to deal with climate change are a non-starter in the British system until ordinary people see a win win outcome for voting that way. The outcome of any convergence between the parties on fossil fuel issues is probably going to be climate damaging since the stability in living costs weve enjoyed for several years is seen as normal. We will head into the next election with chilling warnings about the era of cheap food, cheap fuel, cheap transport being over.... Whoever promises a return to earlier days will enjoy a higher return than one promising increasing and more expensive denial. I think party politics is 100 years out of date and essentially we have to learn to think and act in new ways without holding out any hope that the party system will be anything other than self serving...
 
Of course i could be wrong so  here is the quote of the day I read in our international reflections:
 
 'Minds are like parachutes. They only function when they are open'. Sir James Dewar

Steve
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Are you prepared to demand a coalition government in the UK to take commensurate action on the looming climate crisis?

 
Not immediately, but at a pivotal moment, with prior preparation now - gathering as many high-profile supporters as possible.

 
The idea came to me on reading articles and in the Guardian about the road tax and fuel protests on 28 May - with similar protests now spreading across western Europe.  An article by Gordon Brown that day 'We must all act together' appeared to me calculated to buy off radical environmentalists, and among some good letters telling him to stick to his guns (unlike the time of the 2000 fuel depot blockade) and strengthen the Climate Change Bill, one asked for a 'cross-party pact to support legislation to cut down greenhouse gas emissions'.

 
But if we really wanted to emulate war-time conditions, as evoked from time time by Andrew Simms and Mayer Hillman (and probably others), cross-party pacts are not going to be enough - for political parties will still vy with each other for votes and corporate favours, appease the electorate and fail to take anything like effective action.

 
So please tell me if you would support a collective demand for a coalition government?

 
I look forward to hearing from you.

 
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