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And me. Isn't community about the respect and safety that facilitates participation as well as challenging given ways of understanding? And even modelling what we hope to achieve? Anger might lead to social change, petty put-downs lead nowhere apart from making people feel marginalised. And inaccessible language does the same thing. On 17/6/08 7:06 AM, "Mark Burton" <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Yes - I agree fully > > > Valeska Matziol wrote: >> >> And what exactly is that comment meant to achieve?! >> >> >> >> From following the discussions (or indeed lack thereof) for the last >> year I find it striking that every positive comment on this list seems >> to be automatically criticised and put down (and funnily enough always >> by the same handful of people). And here's silly little me thinking >> that community psychology is about being inclusive and supportive, >> valueing diversity, etc.... Maybe this list could do with a bit more >> of that? >> >> >> >> And just ot be clear: That doesn't mean that I'm advocating uncritical >> thinking, just that I don't like the general tone of interaction. >> >> >> >> With regards to the issue of accessible writing, I'm firmly with Dawn >> on the matter as I, too, don't quite understand why so many academics >> need to hide their often quite simple arguments in masses of jargon >> and generally inaccessible vocabulary. After all, the (supposed) >> 'knowledge' or 'insight' being disseminated should be acessible to the >> general public, shouldn't it?! Or are we just writing for each other's >> amusement? >> >> >> >> Anyway... I await your inevitable criticisms with eager anticipation :) >> >> >> >> >> >> --- Craig Newnes /<[log in to unmask]>/ schrieb am *Mo, 16.6.2008: >> * >> >> *Von: Craig Newnes <[log in to unmask]> >> Betreff: Re: ACP new issue >> An: [log in to unmask] >> Datum: Montag, 16. Juni 2008, 12:01 >> >> * >> *one of our pet peaves is the arrogant tone of some journals that >> make it so hard to understand exactly what is being said!!!! * >> >> * * >> >> *Don't know why this irritates you - all that's being said is "I'm >> right" At least that's clear. It's why the Daily Telegraph is so >> easy to read.* >> >> *Craig* >> >> *----- Original Message ----- * >> **From:* Dawn Darlaston-Jones >> <mailto:[log in to unmask]> * >> **To:* [log in to unmask] >> <mailto:[log in to unmask]> * >> **Sent:* Monday, June 16, 2008 4:43 AM* >> **Subject:* Re: [COMMUNITYPSYCHUK] ACP new issue* >> * >> * >> >> *Dear Jacqui* >> >> *Thank you for such a lovely e-mail. Iım really pleased to >> hear that you find the journal accessible one of our pet >> peaves is the arrogant tone of some journals that make it so >> hard to understand exactly what is being said!!!!* >> >> * * >> >> *We would welcome a submission from you what areas do you >> work in?* >> >> *Dawn* >> >> * * >> >> *____________________________________________* >> >> * * >> >> *Dawn Darlaston-Jones, PhD* >> >> *Lecturer, Behavioural Science* >> >> *School of Arts & Sciences* >> >> *University of Notre Dame* >> >> *19 Mouat Street ( PO Box 1225 )* >> >> *FREMANTLE* >> >> *Western Australia WA 6160* >> >> * * >> >> *Tel: +61 8 9433 0567* >> >> *Fax: +61 8 9433 6073* >> >> *e-mail [log in to unmask] >> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>* >> >> * * >> >> *CRICOS Code 01032F* >> >> * * >> >> *IMPORTANT: This e-mail and any attachments may be >> confidential. If you are not the intended recipient you should >> not disclose, copy, disseminate or otherwise use the >> information contained in it. 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Our >> liability is limited to re-supplying any affected attachments. * >> >> * * >> >> * >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> * >> >> **From:* The UK Community Psychology Discussion List >> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] *On Behalf Of *jacqui >> lovell >> *Sent:* 15 June 2008 19:43 >> *To:* [log in to unmask] >> *Subject:* Re: [COMMUNITYPSYCHUK] ACP new issue* >> >> * * >> >> * * >> >> *Thank you for this Dawn, >> I have found a number of articles in both the new and back >> issues, both interesting, thought provoking and informative >> and in some cases they have reflected back to me issues that I >> have experienced especially the article by Guerin and Guerin >> re methodological issues with refugee communities, it has been >> enlightening to learn that others have similar concerns and >> experiences to my own! >> >> I may even be brave enough to submit for publication myself in >> this journal in the near future, as the language order is one >> that can be readily understood and all the articles I have >> read to date appear grounded in people's experiences with a >> level of honest self reflection that I both aspire to and >> admire in others. >> >> Thanks again >> >> Jacqui >> * >> >> * * >> >> * >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> * >> >> *Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 08:38:27 +0800 >> From: [log in to unmask] >> Subject: ACP new issue >> To: [log in to unmask]* >> >> *Dear Colleagues* >> >> *The latest issue of Australian Community Psychologist has >> now been published on-line* >> >> * * >> >> *see >> >> http://www.groups.psychology.org.au/GroupContent.aspx?ID=883#vol20-1-08.* >> >> * * >> >> *This is a special issue on place based practice and >> contains some interesting reading from a specific >> programme in Victoria but also has examples from the US & UK* >> >> *As always I would like to extend my thanks to our >> production editor Ms Anne Sibbel who spends several weeks >> formatting the papers and making it print ready. 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