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Hi Tim and all

Tim Allen wrote:

Poetry, like anything else, should be judged/read/taken in/criticized/
enjoyed/praised for what it is, not because of the gender, colour,
class, profession, nationality, politics, character etc of the person
who wrote it.
And that's it.

Surely the latter informs/makes the former? Poetry cannot stand outside 
society. Poetry does not have a separate life.

If poetry is liberating for the individual (in writing, reading, listening) 
then it stands to reason that poetry is part of liberation for a group, 
especially those groups, classes and nations which have been opressed?

I like women's anthologies for they often have a thematic element missing 
from anthologies of worthies.

Best wishes, Rupert

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tim Allen" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 11:04 AM
Subject: Re: Women only


> As I've said before, I'm very much on Geraldine's wavelength re this 
> topic and I agree with her that women only anthologies have done the 
> opposite of integrate. I know this is a very iffy issue but I would  say 
> that WO anthologies etc have done much to benefit certain  individual 
> women, but at the expense of women's poetry in general.  Why? Wow, there's 
> a question.
>
> Even more iffy to counter, Carrie said
> "Every day I have experiences that are informed by stereotyped 
> perceptions of my identity as a woman..."
>
> I've two questions regarding this.
> 1. How can you tell a stereotyped perception from a non-stereotyped 
> perception?
> 2. Can I, as a male, even consider, in the complex interactions of 
> reality, the notion of being perceived stereotypically by women, let 
> alone complain about such a possibility?
>
> Poetry, like anything else, should be judged/read/taken in/criticized/ 
> enjoyed/praised for what it is, not because of the gender, colour,  class, 
> profession, nationality, politics, character etc of the person  who wrote 
> it.
> And that's it.
>
> All the best
> Tim A.