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2008/5/25 judy prince <[log in to unmask]>: > Anybody out there willing to define, describe---specify---wot "working" > class means to them, to any of us, to UK'ers, to USAmericans, to > Australians, to Italians, to Finns? hm. to finns (to ME), it's the idealistic, honest, semi-socialist, not-quite-actual remnant of tougher times, when it was real people who put the 'work' in 'working class'. if struggling finances were enough to designate people as working class, every student I know would be; despite the 'high education' we're getting for free. the term working class (työväenluokka) is one of the most vividly antiquated finnish words I can imagine. to use it negatively is a massive faux pas, to use it positively is tongue-in-cheek. I get the feeling that most finns want to be upper class, & it aggravates me no damn end. KS