----- Original Message ----- From: "Dominic Fox" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 12:16 PM Subject: Re: today's low / "Rain" >I find I want to distinguish between "bourgeois" (ideologically captivated) >avant-gardism and some other kind (say Kathy Acker's, to pull an example >out of my hat; although she could certainly tell a story). In other words, >I don't agree that the techniques and procedures of the various >avant-gardes are necessarily ideologically impotent; but do agree that they >are capable of being used in ideologically impotent ways, and that the >dominant ("mainstream") use of them is as impotent as one would expect. > > Badiou is, incidentally, a very clear and cogent writer; as far as one > might wish from Derrida or Lacan. > > Dominic > I will have to read him. Typically, I've bought two books on him, and his "Ethics," and set them aside. I think I'm a bit allergic to anyone who was ever attracted to Maoism. --- the techniques ... of the various avant-gardes are not necessarily ideologically impotent; but ... they are capable of being used in ideologically impotent ways" --- I have to agree with that. Simply because I DON'T put style first in criticizing poetry, but motive and world-view - which are ultimately mysterious, objects of speculation, and an embarrassment to criticism.