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Not allowed access, Barry, but I believe you.... I guess we just have to let them be, with their poetry, while we read ours (which we know covers a wider ground, & is much more exciting, compelling, engaging, demanding, etc.).... Doug On 8-May-08, at 1:26 AM, Barry Alpert wrote: > In my essay "Post-Modern Oral Poetry: Buckminster Fuller, John Cage, > and David Antin", I point to > extrapolations from the continuous U.S. oral tradition unheard by > twentieth century republican > country-club society: the blues and dada, not to mention Rexroth, > Patchen, & the Beats. Douglas Barbour [log in to unmask] http://www.ualberta.ca/~dbarbour/ Latest books: Continuations (with Sheila E Murphy) http://www.uap.ualberta.ca/UAP.asp?LID=41&bookID=664 Wednesdays' http://abovegroundpress.blogspot.com/2008/03/new-from-aboveground-press_10.html Lives devoted to Beauty seldom end well. Sir Kenneth Clark